re: Auburn faithful...do you miss the steadiness of Tuberville?

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You're right Les Miles has never F'd up the clock at the end of a game

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what coach hasn't? people have acted like miles is way worse than anyone else. that was the point of it being included in the list. i've only gotten 1 person to ever cough up examples of "clock mismanagement" and only 2 or 3 were legit. in 10 seasons. yeah, he's got a "problem."

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USC doesn't have a national title trophy from 2003

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"a" trophy. not "the" trophy. a ham sandwich can get a trophy these days. oh and btw, now we know they were cheating worse than auburn did with scam.

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LSU is pumping out star QBs

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name the lsu qb who DIDN'T improve in the last 10 years

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there was totally no good fortune involved in being the only 2 loss national champion in college football history

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that's not what i have repeatedly said. i said that there wasn't significantly more than in any season.

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there are no other programs who can touch LSU's incredible achievements of two conference titles and a BCS title since Miles took over

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other than bama? pretty much

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9-6 is totally what everyone remembers about 2011 and not 21-0.

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it's certainly not anywhere close to equal. almost totally forgotten about. that was the point of it being on the list.

Do you marry sweet Jenny from next door, or bang supermodels every once in a while while filling the lonely times with meh?

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like lsu "lucked" into the ncg or "backdoored" in neither of which are true.

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Sure it's true

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Do you prefer higher highs and lower lows from your favorite team

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The Barn is a helluva drug.

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How do you keep typing this?

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just curious how people such as yourself keep making the same argument over and over. the rarity of '07 means lsu lucked into it but, lsu "deserved" it. comedy gold.

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It doesn't matter who else deserved to be there

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of course it matters. that's the whole point. that's the point i've been making to some apparently really super thick headed people.

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The fact is that LSU lost two games,

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MAKING THE SAME ARGUMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEBUNKED. it doesn't matter how many games lsu lost. good grief. it's body of work IN COMPARISON TO everyone else.

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good fortune

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every team in the bcs era has needed "good fortune." no one controls voting or non-opponents records.

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That you fail to see how this could be construed as fortunate or lucky defies reason.

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i can see how it's an oversimplification, a misunderstanding and apparently being personally threatened by lsu's success. but i don't expect small minded people to be able to just admit they were wrong about it.

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defend, qualify, and make excuses

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aka, state facts

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speaking in absolutes about Newton being ineligible

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yes. he got a pass on a technicality. everyone knew he was ineligible but they also knew that "loopholes" don't hold up in court. that's why people try to close them.

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never actually occurred

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not in touch with reality are you? that's ok. alot of auburn fans aren't on this matter.

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Your logic is subjective and inconsistent,

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at no point has anyone come close to showing anything like this and i invite you to try. NAME THE TEAMS WHO DESERVED TO BE THERE MORE THAN LSU. state your criteria and justify it. IT'S A CHALLENGE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN MET. you would be the first.

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it's difficult to take someone like that seriously.

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based on this post, you really have no credibility in making this statement.

come on bro, man up and let's see you make an objective case.

LSU got lucky and backed into the NC game in 2007. Sorry that's so hard for you to accept. It'll be ok. They still won it.

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everyone knew he was ineligible

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Except the NCAA. It's ironic for you to be so definitive on this and argue technicalities. You saying everyone knew he was ineligible is about the same as me saying everyone knows LSU was lucky to play for a championship with two losses. Considering that Newton never missed a snap, most people would probably argue that my point is less subjective.

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facts

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These seem to be difficult for you. You are arguing the wrong point. LSU was fortunate to have the opportunity to win a championship with two losses, something that has never happened before. One of those losses was the last game they played during the season. They deserve credit for winning the game once they got there. However, any reasonable observer would conclude that a team would be lucky to win a title under these highly unusual circumstances. This is what everyone is trying to say, yet you think we're all out of touch with reality. If everyone else in the room is always wrong, then you're probably wrong yourself.

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two losses, something that has never happened before.

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the problem is that people are equating this with lsu "backing into" the ncg wholly because of forces beyond their control. as i have said repeatedly and is apparently beyond the comprehension of some people, this happens every football season. the 2 losses are irrelevant to lsu's "luck" or "fortune" or whatever other wrong word you want to use. no one is denying that there is a rarity to it or that there was an exciting timing to it. lsu deserved it more than anyone else. again, people hide behind the "luck" mantra, throw the "backed in" rock and when the police show up, say "oh, they deserved it." it's just juvenile.

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This is what everyone is trying to say

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yes, and they are wrong every time they repeat it because i have addressed the dumb idea and no one is responding to my refutation. i don't know if you have caught on to this or not but, every time someone responds to my post, it's with a repetition of something that has already been debunked. no one is taking the challenge because they know they can't do it. so, they just keep repeating the same old stupid idea hoping the 15th time will work.

get off your duffs and prove that several other teams "deserved" it more than lsu. if you can't come up with any, then lsu "deserved" it meaning they were the best in the system and earned it as much as anyone can. calling it luck or backed in is just stupid and implies that every team that makes it in any bcs year was just lucky and backed in.