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Auburn Dean Speaks

Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:17 am
Posted by allin2010
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:17 am
The articles on various topics about the NYT article use the word "IF", like IF this is true, it must mean "Aliens"

Here is the definitive article from the academic side, based on facts not IF...
THE ACADEMIC FACTS

UBURN -- Auburn’s dean at the College of Liberal Arts says his recommendation to keep the public administration major was not based on influence from the athletics department.

Joseph Aistrup, the dean at the College of Liberal Arts at Auburn since 2013, was adamant in an email conversation with The Advertiser that his viewpoint was based on “the academic viability of this undergraduate major.”

Aistrup, who came to Auburn from Kansas State where he was associate dean of the College of Arts and Sciences, said his recommendation was based on three factors, none of which were associated with athletics influence or the number of student-athletes being involved in the major.

“I made this evaluation independent of any contact that may have occurred between the Athletic Department and any other administrator at Auburn,” Aistrup said. “The fact that there were student athletes in this program was unknown to me, and irrelevant to my decision-making.”

According to Auburn records, 16 current members of the 2015 Auburn football team, including several key starters and contributors, are listed as being public administration majors. Four members of the Auburn men’s basketball team, all transfer athletes, are listed as public administration majors.

“We have expert faculty in these fields who are widely recognized for their research and teaching,” Kathleen Hale, MPA Program Director and Associate Professor at Auburn said in a e-mail response to The Advertiser. “With the Dean’s approval to reinstate the program and provide resources, we are excited to teach students and give them the skills to do what we love. The public administration major also integrates well with the other academic programs in the Department of Political Science including its accredited MPA program and the PhD in public administration and public policy.”

Aistrup said he “did not have any contact with any member of the athletic department until November of 2013.”

“A development officer and I met with (Auburn athletics director) Jay Jacobs to discuss the progress on the band building project,” Aistrup said. “We did not discuss public administration.”

A Wall Street Journal report, which was released Wednesday evening, detailed Auburn’s athletics department resistance to the elimination of an undergraduate major and ultimately leading to a decision to ultimately keep it intact.

Hale, who has been a professor in Auburn’s public administration department since 2006, also supported Aistrup’s position that athletics had no influence on the decision to keep the major. She also took serious issue with the implication in the WSJ report that the public administration major was seen as an easy program to place student-athletes in to maintain their eligibility.

"The graduate students who had been Auburn public administration undergraduates were incensed today that their degree was being portrayed in some circles as a cake walk," Hale said. "The easy major idea is simply not true."

Aistrup’s account of the decision-making process contradicts the WSJ report saying the athletics department had influence over keeping the public administration major.

“The academic program review report indicated that political science wanted to eliminate this degree because the department did not have the faculty resources to continue to support the major,” Aistrup said. “As the new Dean, I was willing to provide the necessary resources to continue this major.”


Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4181 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:23 am to


Nothing to see here folks
Posted by Usey
EC
Member since Jul 2013
484 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:30 am to
13th Grade
Posted by DannyB
Bagram, Afghanistan
Member since Aug 2010
6141 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:32 am to
And I'm sure all athletes at thUGA are in engineering, biomedical, or pre-law
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:34 am to
Family All In. Doesn't matter if it's a big deal or not. Auburn circles the wagons. UGA should take notes.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139969 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:46 am to
That's a good leader right there. Get tortured by the Auburn Gestapo and then produce a statement supporting the party line. The only thing missing was Heil Gus!
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:48 am to
quote:

Family All In. Doesn't matter if it's a big deal or not. Auburn circles the wagons.



Trailer park mentality if you go in there to fight one they all boil out on you like fire ants.


Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5578 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:51 am to
Hey! Look over there!
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41880 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 6:54 am to
Rather Cultish
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:04 am to
"Family All In. Doesn't matter if it's a big deal or not.Auburn circles the wagons. UGA should take notes"

Frankly I don't see the big deal here in this particular "story" but you're right. NO SCHOOL...and no fanbase circles the wagons like the Auburn fambly. If there was documented evidence of Penn State level stuff happening there they'd come out with a united front accusing "Bammers" and the REC of some wild hair brained conspiracy to set them up. Can't argue with the strategy as it worked during the Cam investigation. Just goes to prove if you think your s### doesn't stink and you're as pure as the wind driven snow hard enough, you can probably convince/fool NCAA investigators as well.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:08 am to
Auburn Dean Speaks

Just goes to prove if you think your s### doesn't stink and you're as pure as the wind driven snow hard enough, you can probably convince/fool NCAA investigators as well.
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You've missed the mark, they don't think that they are pure, they are simply shameless.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19510 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:08 am to
Y'all seem to be mighty rustled for it to be "no big deal". Just sayin..
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:09 am to
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If there was documented evidence of Penn State level stuff happening there they'd come out with a united front accusing "Bammers" and the REC of some wild hair brained conspiracy to set them up. Can't argue with the strategy as it worked during the Cam investigation. Just goes to prove if you think your s### doesn't stink and you're as pure as the wind driven snow hard enough, you can probably convince/fool NCAA investigators as well.


We are pure as the wind driven snow. Nice. Also have not seen Auburn blame Bama. Love the Cam reference.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:16 am to
Thought you might have liked that. Definitely expect at least a few nibbles from that one ;)

"Also have not see Auburn blame Bama"

ROFLMAO. Good one
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:16 am to
tl;dr aubarn fricked
Posted by freemanjiro
Izunokuni City, Shizuoka, Japan
Member since Nov 2013
1394 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:22 am to
re: Auburn Dean Speaks(Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:04 am to WorkinDawg)
"Family All In. Doesn't matter if it's a big deal or not.Auburn circles the wagons. UGA should take notes"

" Frankly I don't see the big deal here in this particular "story" but you're right. NO SCHOOL...and no fanbase circles the wagons like the Auburn fambly. If there was documented evidence of Penn State level stuff happening there they'd come out with a united front accusing "Bammers" and the REC of some wild hair brained conspiracy to set them up. Can't argue with the strategy as it worked during the Cam investigation. Just goes to prove if you think your s### doesn't stink and you're as pure as the wind driven snow hard enough, you can probably convince/fool NCAA investigators as well."

Govt't Tide

There is no big deal. There is no deal. But with regards to the wagons speech, Gov't Tide, with all due respect, just shut up. Please feel free to list up UA's athletes' majors. Come on man. Engineers, scientists, BA's, etc.?
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 7:23 am
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30098 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:22 am to
This matters to nobody man. Let it go
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30866 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:23 am to
To be blunt, the only true threat to Auburn's academic standing was when Lowder was being allowed to run roughshod over the whole process. That nearly came to a head, but you guys got rid of that clown and cleaned things up.

Now, yes, you're a fine academic institution; but unless your name is "Vanderbilt", you're going to find members of the media aiming for you if you're in the SEC for your academics. Things like "being a great school" and "placing a huge number of graduates in well paying jobs" will matter little to them anyway. The only thing you can do to keep them off your backs?

Suck at football and basketball every year.
Unwilling to do that?

Then expect to be attacked.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:36 am to
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allin2010


Why do you feed the monkeys?

This is a nothing news story.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79145 posts
Posted on 8/28/15 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Frankly I don't see the big deal here in this particular "story" but you're right. NO SCHOOL...and no fanbase circles the wagons like the Auburn fambly. If there was documented evidence of Penn State level stuff happening there they'd come out with a united front accusing "Bammers" and the REC of some wild hair brained conspiracy to set them up. Can't argue with the strategy as it worked during the Cam investigation. Just goes to prove if you think your s### doesn't stink and you're as pure as the wind driven snow hard enough, you can probably convince/fool NCAA investigators as well.



quote:

Govt Tide



Half your fan base would literally murder children if Saban directed them.
This post was edited on 8/28/15 at 7:58 am
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