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Assuming We Still Keep Divisions Who Would You Want As Your Permanent Cross Division Rival

Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:27 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:27 pm
This is also assuming Bama and Auburn move East with Mizzou moving West

I'd think Bama and LSU would remain

Oklahoma and Texas are a toss up between Georgia and Florida

Who knows what else happens
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted by SCgamecock2988
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:28 pm to
I want Arkansas back. We came in together we should play each other.
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
5116 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:28 pm to
I will quote our coach:

Eli Drinkwitz-

“I kinda like the rivalry we got with Arkansas. I mean I can’t remember the last time they beat us, so, I kinda like what we got right now.”
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:29 pm to
Alabama.
Posted by SCgamecock2988
Member since Oct 2015
14063 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:29 pm to
Well if Mizzou would move to the West you'd play them yearly anyway. But with 16 teams we will probably drop the two division format regardless.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:29 pm to
No permanent cross opponents either with divisions or pods...
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Oxford Ways
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:30 pm to
I kinda like our current setup
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:31 pm to
Texas. I'd like to go on a different type of 12 year run vs UT ORANGE.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 1:33 pm
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:39 pm to
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No permanent cross opponents either with divisions or pods...


permanent cross overs with PODS could work. The POD system that the SEC network has one major issue, Auburn/UGA are in different PODS.

So POD1 (LSU/Aggie/Ole Miss/MIss. State)
POD 2 (OU/Texas/MIZZOU/Arkansas)
POD 3 (Auburn/Bama/TENN/Vandy)
POD 4 (Florida/UGA/UK/SCAR).

That POD structure keeps all the historical SEC games in intact except UGA/Auburn. Bama/Auburn, FLorida/UGA and TENN/Bama. The LSU/Florida game, while not as historical as those other 4 is one of the best games going right now and has eclipsed the Bama/TENN game in terms of relevance

So LSU plays there POD (Aggie/Ole Miss/STate) and lets say plays Florida as permanent from POD4, Arkansas as Permanent from POD2 and lets say Auburn, or Bama, from POD3.

Auburn then would play its POD (TENN/Vandy/Bama). The PODS with Vandy in it are going to have to play more top end teams so Auburn plays UGA as permanent from POD4, Texas from POD2 (if they don't have LSU from POD1) or Arkansas if LSU is from POD1.

Texas A&M then for example would get Texas from POD2 as permanent, they can keep SCAR from POD4 (that is who they play) and maybe TENN or Bama from POD3, etc.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:49 pm to
It’s doesn’t matter if they could work, there should not be any cross permanent opponents…
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
5116 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Texas. I'd like to go on a different type of 12 year run vs UT ORANGE.


I would support this.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:17 pm to
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It’s doesn’t matter if they could work, there should not be any cross permanent opponents…


Well, I understand but there is no way to have PODS that keeps all the games that involve Auburn, Bama, TENN, and Florida.

More than cross permanents, the one thing they should not do with a 16 team 2 8 team Division SEC, is have a Western Division with LSU/OU/Texas/Texas A&M/MIZZOU/Arkansas/Ole Miss and MISS State

LSU is now in a division with 5 of the old SWC/BIG8 and only 2 other charter members of the SEC.

So a POD system that avoids that scenario, which I would think the LSU Admin, TAF, and season ticket holders (I am one of those) would want to avoid more than the cross permanent.

Despite the scheduling issues with LSU having Florida and Bama along with Auburn whereas Bama with LSU and Auburn and TENN, I would rather keep for example Florida on the schedule as a permanent than play 7 games from that hypothetical Western Division and see Florida, Bama, Auburn once every 9 years.

I would also think teams like Bama, Florida, Auburn, UGA, etc would want to go to Austin and Norman even if they aren't too worried about loosing their annual game with LSU (i.e. Auburn, Florida and Bama).
Posted by JDMPartII
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:19 pm to
No one- we won't need them anymore: that's why this is a good idea
Posted by Laman1978
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Member since Jan 2009
10896 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

It’s doesn’t matter if they could work, there should not be any cross permanent opponents…
Agreed. With so many teams now, it's time to abandon this crap. It made more sense before. The SEC made it's bed. It's time to sleep in it. Everyone will play each other every two years anyway.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:25 pm to
Alabama vs. LSU puts a lot of eyes on this conference and surely produces lots of money. If Alabama and Auburn get moved to the SEC East, Alabama’s rivalry games are safe since Alabama would be in the same division as both Auburn and Tennessee. So the most logical permanent cross-division game for Alabama would be LSU given how often that game turns out to be one of the biggest games of the college football season.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Alabama vs. LSU puts a lot of eyes on this conference and surely produces lots of money. If Alabama and Auburn get moved to the SEC East, Alabama’s rivalry games are safe since Alabama would be in the same division as both Auburn and Tennessee. So the most logical permanent cross-division game for Alabama would be LSU given how often that game turns out to be one of the biggest games of the college football season.



Well if they put LSU in a division with OU, Texas, Texas A&M, MIZZOU, Arkansas, that leaves us with only Ole Miss and MISS State from the Charter members of the league.

LSU has a long history with Florida, Bama, Auburn. We also have one with UK, but when the new format in the early 2000's was put in place, we stopped playing them annually.

If we have to play the 7 teams in the new West, a permanent with Alabama is done. Heck we are loosing the Florida game and the Auburn game. Those 3 games, and the Texas A&M games have been the annual games that command the most ticket demand, obviously, the Bama, Florida and Auburn games given the history.

If LSU has to play the 7 teams in the West, and Bama as a permanent, then that means LSU sees the other 7 teams (Florida, Auburn, UGA, UK, SCAR, TENN, Vandy) every 8th year.

Just go 7 West and play 2 from the East and rotate them through over 4 years. LSU will see Alabama every 5th year.

So if you all go West and we keep divisions, LSU and Bama fans are going to have to play here because our teams are not going to play on the field but once every 5 years.
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