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re: As was stated by a Tide fan, I am also against paying college athletes.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 1:08 pm to DonaldDuckworth
Posted on 10/2/19 at 1:08 pm to DonaldDuckworth
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bouncing around a nearly empty cranium.
Did you say I had an empty cranium!
Whoops! never mind. I reread and you said it was nearly empty.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 1:34 pm to DonaldDuckworth
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You basically just keep saying the same thing without providing any supporting points "I just think we ought to pay these players" isn't an argument.
This may be where you are getting confused. I’m not saying the players have to be paid. I’m saying I have no problem with a player getting paid as part of an endorsement deal or something similar.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 10/2/19 at 1:45 pm to civiltiger07
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This may be where you are getting confused. I’m not saying the players have to be paid. I’m saying I have no problem with a player getting paid as part of an endorsement deal or something similar.
I'm not confused at all. I know exactly the proposals that you are supporting. And I don't have any issue with it either...until I pose the question "ok...so how would this work and what are the likely consequences"...then it becomes very clear that it is untenable.
Not only that, but these are simply the terms of playing college athletics. No one is forcing them to do this. They have a MUCH greater "right to work" argument against keeping them from immediately entering the NBA or the NFL right out of high school than they do forcing universities and the ncaa to allow them to play in spite of them breaking rules of amateur eligibility. But even then, the 3 years out of high school rule is an NFL rule and they have ever right to determine their qualifications.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/2/19 at 1:51 pm to DonaldDuckworth
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until I pose the question "ok...so how would this work and what are the likely consequences"...then it becomes very clear that it is untenable.
What are the consequences? That a booster with a car dealership will pay a player?
And why is this untenable? Players are getting paid right now by boosters. This would just be known now and the players would have to pay taxes on it.
And by the way I don’t give much credence to the ncaa letter.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 2:05 pm to civiltiger07
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What are the consequences? That a booster with a car dealership will pay a player?
That unlimited entities (boosters, corporations, fans) would pay unlimited players unlimited amounts of money...and then it would operate the way unchecked capitalism operates...a bidding war and survival of the fittest (the richest). They would be paid A LOT...then how do the baseball players feel about that? How do them women's sports feel about that when nobody wants to pay them or only pennies? Now the universities and the ncaa are failing to promote women's sports with the same fervor that they do football and basketball...and they'll have a pretty good case because (excluding the extremely important matter of ROI) they DO spend far more money promoting men's sports. And since different universities, markets, and corporations have varying budgets, the programs with the most resources would DOMINATE. Think about LSU that thrives in recruiting because they've got carte blanche in Louisiana and a good bit of Texas...but seriously limited resources and in a shitty media market like Baton Rouge...no more. The best players in Louisiana and Texas are going to go to the major markets to the programs with far more money than LSU.
quote:This is been explained ad nauseam.
And why is this untenable?
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Players are getting paid right now by boosters.
at nowhere NEAR the scale...and there's no telling what % of the money these athletes will be collecting will be coming from sponsorship deals which isn't currently happening at all.
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And by the way I don’t give much credence to the ncaa letter.
Ok...based on what? I mean, they are the authority on who is and isn't eligible to play college sports. There would have to be a federal law to supersede the ncaa's decision.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 2:17 pm to MullenBoys
Didn’t read the thread or any messages, because I stopped after it was stated free tuition was given. It’s not “free”.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 3:09 pm to DonaldDuckworth
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That unlimited entities (boosters, corporations, fans) would pay unlimited players unlimited amounts of money
Unlimited amounts of money? Do you think money literally grows on trees?
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Players are getting paid right now by boosters.quote:
at nowhere NEAR the scale
You are throwing around your opinion as if it’s a fact.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 3:13 pm to DonaldDuckworth
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but seriously limited resources and in a shitty media market like Baton Rouge...no more. The best players in Louisiana and Texas are going to go to the major markets to the programs with far more money than LSU.
Literally the same thing was said about Zion when he got drafted by New Orleans. Doesn’t look like they were right about that either.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 3:15 pm to MullenBoys
1: the colleges choose to provide that because they want their players to get the best nutrition specifically so they can perform better. Argument is invalid.
2: This isn’t opening up any “can of worms” because the school is not paying the players. The players would just be allowed to make money off their likeness. Think EA Sports case where the company wanted to pay the players for the rights to their likenesses but was told by the NCAA that they couldn’t.
3: Your top players are playing for one thing and one thing only. That fat check from the NFL in the future.
2: This isn’t opening up any “can of worms” because the school is not paying the players. The players would just be allowed to make money off their likeness. Think EA Sports case where the company wanted to pay the players for the rights to their likenesses but was told by the NCAA that they couldn’t.
3: Your top players are playing for one thing and one thing only. That fat check from the NFL in the future.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 3:18 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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it is blatantly illegal under federal law for a school to give one player even $100 dollars, not to mention $1,000,000
You realize it's illegal for the Alabama bagman to pay players right? And they're not just paying random players, they're paying the players that the coaches are interested in. Same will go for paying for a players "likeness". Some "random" third party will find out what recruits arenwantes by the "school" and then magically make up a t-shirt with the recruits likeness and pay them money. Don't act like it isn't happening now and would happen even more under the new rules.
I was replying to your comment about boosters paying buyouts, which is above board, legal, and sanctioned by the university.
My point, which obviously waaaaayyyyy over your head, is the fact that while boosters can legally put up the money to buy out a coach, Title IX would make it illegal for the school or the booster club to pay a male athlete any sum of money that they aren't paying every female.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 3:22 pm to MullenBoys
I don’t like the idea of players being paid, but it was a long time coming. College football is a massive money generator. Everyone gets a slice of the pie except for the players. Why not just increase scholarship benefits?
Posted on 10/2/19 at 4:31 pm to MullenBoys
If college football players start getting paid legally, I wonder how many people will lose interest in college football. The only professional sport I've ever cared about is MLB, and that's partly because unlike other professional sports, MLB isn't completely controlled by money.
Even though I like soccer, I don't watch it, because the Premier League, at least, is so dominated by the wealthiest teams. From a team level, it's a business, rather than a sport, and I'm not interested in watching business on Saturday afternoon.
Even though I like soccer, I don't watch it, because the Premier League, at least, is so dominated by the wealthiest teams. From a team level, it's a business, rather than a sport, and I'm not interested in watching business on Saturday afternoon.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:11 pm to BamaGradinTn
This is obviously waaaaaayyyyy over your head.
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