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As was stated by a Tide fan, I am also against paying college athletes.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:24 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:24 am
And for good reason. I shall name them. Keep in mind that once you start something it gets out of hand.
1) College football players have it best but not exclusive. Free tuition and they eat the best meals. College also provides them a place to showcase their talents and make HUGE money in the NFL draft. For those who don’t make the NFL draft, some are free agents who sign while others may go overseas to play for good money. Meanwhile, while on campus, they get a college degree others pay thousands for. That goes for ALL recruited athletes.
2) If you are going to open a can of worms, be prepared for what is next in the courts. Every mens basketball player needs to get paid. So do womens hoops players, volley ball players, golfers of both sexes, softball, baseball, track & field, swimming and diving, soccer players, (at Miss State our national champions in freaking frisbee golf) , lacrosse, tennis of both sexes. I could go on and on.
3) You open up this bullshite and you will regret it later. It will simply destroy the one thing that is so pure today unlike , say the NFL where players play not so much to win (because of what their agents tell many of them) but in college football for instance, they play for the love of the game.
How many times for instance have we seen an NFL player not produce only to have his best year leading up to becoming a free agent? We have all seen it. You all have seen it so don’t deny it. It happens every fking year.
If you think cheating is bad now, start paying players. Not only will it get worse but now you have players with money at a age they can’t handle and you will see more kids in trouble than ever before.
Think before you support this stupid idea.
1) College football players have it best but not exclusive. Free tuition and they eat the best meals. College also provides them a place to showcase their talents and make HUGE money in the NFL draft. For those who don’t make the NFL draft, some are free agents who sign while others may go overseas to play for good money. Meanwhile, while on campus, they get a college degree others pay thousands for. That goes for ALL recruited athletes.
2) If you are going to open a can of worms, be prepared for what is next in the courts. Every mens basketball player needs to get paid. So do womens hoops players, volley ball players, golfers of both sexes, softball, baseball, track & field, swimming and diving, soccer players, (at Miss State our national champions in freaking frisbee golf) , lacrosse, tennis of both sexes. I could go on and on.
3) You open up this bullshite and you will regret it later. It will simply destroy the one thing that is so pure today unlike , say the NFL where players play not so much to win (because of what their agents tell many of them) but in college football for instance, they play for the love of the game.
How many times for instance have we seen an NFL player not produce only to have his best year leading up to becoming a free agent? We have all seen it. You all have seen it so don’t deny it. It happens every fking year.
If you think cheating is bad now, start paying players. Not only will it get worse but now you have players with money at a age they can’t handle and you will see more kids in trouble than ever before.
Think before you support this stupid idea.
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Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:26 am to MullenBoys
Thanks for starting your own thread. 
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:29 am to 1BIGTigerFan
I call it like it REALLY is. You agree or disagree?
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:37 am to MullenBoys
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If you are going to open a can of worms, be prepared for what is next in the courts. Every mens basketball player needs to get paid. So do womens hoops players, volley ball players, golfers of both sexes, softball, baseball, track & field, swimming and diving, soccer players, (at Miss State our national champions in freaking frisbee golf) , lacrosse, tennis of both sexes. I could go on and on.
you really don't understand what is going on here.
Sorry that I don't have a problem with a player making money from his/her name and likeness like every single other human being has the ability to do in the world.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:37 am to MullenBoys
I agree completely. What happens to a team when the star player on the team is making hundreds of thousands of dollars off an endorsement, and they decide "to hell with that guy" and let the whole team collapse? When does the college say "OK Mr. Big Shot, pay for your own meals and bed"? What happens when places such as California, full of millionaires, decide to make all of their recruits well paid and famous, how does the rest of the country compete with that?
IMO, College football allows most of these athletes to develop skill sets they don't have when they come out of high school. Very few players right out of high school can compete on the field with NFL type talent.
This whole pretense is crap dreamed up by lawyers and millenials looking for an easy way out. Not everyone who plays college football will get to the NFL, but they are guaranteed a college education, the experience and memories of being able to do it.
IMO, College football allows most of these athletes to develop skill sets they don't have when they come out of high school. Very few players right out of high school can compete on the field with NFL type talent.
This whole pretense is crap dreamed up by lawyers and millenials looking for an easy way out. Not everyone who plays college football will get to the NFL, but they are guaranteed a college education, the experience and memories of being able to do it.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:41 am to DocYates
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What happens to a team when the star player on the team is making hundreds of thousands of dollars off an endorsement
So what happens to an NFL team when the star QB signs a $200 million contract?
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When does the college say "OK Mr. Big Shot, pay for your own meals and bed"?
That would be a very dumb thing on the part of the colleges part.
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What happens when places such as California, full of millionaires, decide to make all of their recruits well paid and famous, how does the rest of the country compete with that?
The rest of the country is competing with this right now.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 6:42 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:42 am to DocYates
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What happens when places such as California, full of millionaires, decide to make all of their recruits well paid and famous, how does the rest of the country compete with that?
Rich people usually don’t get rich by making poor financial decisions.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:47 am to civiltiger07
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Sorry that I don't have a problem with a player making money from his/her name and likeness like every single other human being has the ability to do in the world.
We should just print money and hand them all $100 bills. Hell, we should print money and hand EVERYONE unlimited $100 bills. Poverty solved!
This is what your argument looks like...it sounds great until you actually explore what that would mean.
You are right about all humans being able to do this...but they do not have the ability to play college sports, be on tv, etc...without the NCAA...and these are the NCAA's terms. If they want to make $ on their likeness, they can choose to not play college sports, and just start their own league...or go play for the XFL or something. Until then, college sports belongs to the NCAA and they solely determine who is eligible to participate. Don't like it? No one is forcing you to play college sports.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:49 am to MullenBoys
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It will simply destroy the one thing that is so pure today
Except that it is decidedly NOT pure today and hasn't been for 15+ years. At least at the tip top level of college football and men's basketball.
For better or worse, this recent legislation and debate has been a long-time coming.
I'm not a fan of college athletes being paid, but this train was set in motion when coaches started being paid several millions per year and TV contracts (looking at you, ABC/ESPN) got out of hand.
You can't reasonably expect exceptional 18-23 year old athletes to look at the current landscape and NOT ask why they can't get a piece of the pie.
It was the logical next domino to fall.
What stance the NCAA takes will determine if college athletics dies either sooner or later. It will happen eventually, regardless. I say whoever can cash in, should.
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 6:51 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:49 am to DonaldDuckworth
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We should just print money and hand them all $100 bills. Hell, we should print money and hand EVERYONE unlimited $100 bills. Poverty solved!
This is what your argument looks like...it sounds great until you actually explore what that would mean.
You are likely to stupid to be in this conversation.
What does this actually mean since maybe you have "actually explored" this?
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:50 am to civiltiger07
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So what happens to an NFL team when the star QB signs a $200 million contract?
His linemen get rolexes on top of their millions they make.
That's what happens.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:52 am to roadGator
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His linemen get rolexes on top of their millions they make.
all of the lineman are making millions?
You do realize we aren't talking about college players making millions right?
and what about the linebacker that's making 500k/year and doesn't get a rolex?
This post was edited on 10/2/19 at 6:57 am
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:55 am to MullenBoys
No one cares
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:57 am to MullenBoys
Everything you said is valid.
However, there are valid points on the other side, too.
Think Nebraska's Tommy Frazier, considered one of CFBs greatest leaders. Sold out college stadiums for years, but was not drafted by the pros. Shouldn't he have been able to capitalize on endorsements by a willing company or sell an autograph for some quick bucks while he was still relevant and literally making the school millions?
I remember when Drew Bledsoe signed his, at the time, record $40+ million rookie contract with the Patriots. When asked what it feels like, he said "It's surreal. I sold out stadiums at WSU. I knew fans were primarily coming to see me. Yet, there were nights I didn't have money for a slice of pizza and I was still driving a '79 Granada." Yet if the NCAA had found out a booster bought him a pizza, that'd be considered an improper benefit.
I don't agree with NY's proposed law, that schools should set aside 15% of profits to pay its student-athletes bc it opens a whole can of worms like you detailed, but California's law, imo, does address college stars being able to rightly capitalize on their relative celebrity without the school paying them to play a sport and not affect their amateur status.
However, there are valid points on the other side, too.
Think Nebraska's Tommy Frazier, considered one of CFBs greatest leaders. Sold out college stadiums for years, but was not drafted by the pros. Shouldn't he have been able to capitalize on endorsements by a willing company or sell an autograph for some quick bucks while he was still relevant and literally making the school millions?
I remember when Drew Bledsoe signed his, at the time, record $40+ million rookie contract with the Patriots. When asked what it feels like, he said "It's surreal. I sold out stadiums at WSU. I knew fans were primarily coming to see me. Yet, there were nights I didn't have money for a slice of pizza and I was still driving a '79 Granada." Yet if the NCAA had found out a booster bought him a pizza, that'd be considered an improper benefit.
I don't agree with NY's proposed law, that schools should set aside 15% of profits to pay its student-athletes bc it opens a whole can of worms like you detailed, but California's law, imo, does address college stars being able to rightly capitalize on their relative celebrity without the school paying them to play a sport and not affect their amateur status.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:59 am to LSUFreek
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I don't agree with NY's proposed law, that schools should set aside 15% of profits to pay its student-athletes bc it opens a whole can of worms like you detailed, but California's law, imo, does address college stars being able to rightly capitalize on their relative celebrity without the school paying them to play a sport and not affect their amateur status.
I agree with this 100%.
I thought it was New Jersey that had the 15% thing on top of California's law
Posted on 10/2/19 at 6:59 am to MullenBoys
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As was stated by a Tide fan, I am also against paying college athletes
I hear ya, the Tide pays their players enough already, they don't need anymore money.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:04 am to DocYates
Yes, and we should follow California in all their great decisions like sanctuary cities that have destroyed numerous cities and delivered higher crime. Maybe we follow them and have to put large boulders out on the curb too in order to stop the druggies setting up tents in front of our house.
Everything California does backfires and yet we have people on this board wanting to follow them in a failed policy to come.
Everything California does backfires and yet we have people on this board wanting to follow them in a failed policy to come.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:06 am to MullenBoys
I get the California sucks angle, but how will this policy fail?
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:07 am to civiltiger07
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I thought it was New Jersey
I know I saw NY, but it wouldn't surprise me if NJ and all the states on the east and west coasts have proposals geared up to go.
Posted on 10/2/19 at 7:09 am to MullenBoys
NIKE will pay handsomely for the right to use the likeness of every number one player at every position.
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