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Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:42 pm to AdamDeMamp
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REC and Saban doing WORK! Got rid of their only perceived threat this year.
Nah, it was Mack and the sips trying to maintain Texas recruiting.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:43 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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is this her tbird?
Don't think so, but I could be wrong.
She is a brunette.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:44 pm to darkhorse
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Can you prove that JFF knew about the agreement? That's where it ends.
Can you prove that he would be willing to sign 1,000+ autographs from some random stranger in miami out of the kindness of his selfless, generous, humble heart?
One day you'll look back on some of your posts in response to this situation and you'll laugh...at yourself and how you sounded like a naive homer.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:45 pm to darkhorse
try again.....The new language now exists under Bylaw 12 in the NCAA Manual dealing with amateurism:
“ … an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain …”
“It was important for us to shore that up and make sure we were encompassing all individuals,” Campbell-McGovern. “It addresses not only who is covered but also the scope. Trying to do it is a crime. Not a crime, but a violation.”
Here are selected passages from the rationale portion of the bylaw: “ … an industry of individuals has been created, including runners, financial advisors, marketing representatives, business managers, brand managers and street agents who seek to broker elite athletes for financial gain …
“ … an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain …”
“It was important for us to shore that up and make sure we were encompassing all individuals,” Campbell-McGovern. “It addresses not only who is covered but also the scope. Trying to do it is a crime. Not a crime, but a violation.”
Here are selected passages from the rationale portion of the bylaw: “ … an industry of individuals has been created, including runners, financial advisors, marketing representatives, business managers, brand managers and street agents who seek to broker elite athletes for financial gain …
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:46 pm to NYCAuburn
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they can prove one would reasonably know, which is all they need
This is 100% true. You know this was the case with Newton. Did Cam know?
That's why I am saying that TAMU has a great argument.
The pandora's box is "I had no idea" not "who can ask for money and who can't".
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:46 pm to Roger Klarvin
Johnny Cash
aka
JFC
oh wait thats sorta taken I guess
well I'm taking it back!
aka
JFC
oh wait thats sorta taken I guess
well I'm taking it back!
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:46 pm to T Rey WI
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Opposed to selling it himself, oh lets say, 30,000 times to a person who turns around and submits them all to be authenticated.
money badger
yes, I got this from another board.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:47 pm to NYCAuburn
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I think it started before them or did you mean since 1956
True, but most here are under the age of 40.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:49 pm to MrSEC
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See any case since 1986.
I see the Newton case. Didn't the NCAA publicly state there was wrong doing, but the language would not allow them to do anything?
I do believe that Auburn fought tooth and nail.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:51 pm to darkhorse
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This is 100% true. You know this was the case with Newton. Did Cam know?
Cam knowing and JM knowing are two different scenarios.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:52 pm to darkhorse
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Didn't the NCAA publicly state there was wrong doing, but the language would not allow them to do anything?
unsuccessful solicitation at MSU
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:53 pm to darkhorse
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Didn't the NCAA publicly state there was wrong doing, but the language would not allow them to do anything?
No.
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I do believe that Auburn fought tooth and nail.
No, they didn't. Don't let all the rest of the rant's butthurt revise history for you.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:55 pm to bamasgot13
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Can you prove that he would be willing to sign 1,000+ autographs from some random stranger in miami out of the kindness of his selfless, generous, humble heart?
I can. I could. Has he signed autographs in the past willingly? Yes
What reason was given to JFF for the signing of autographs? "Jff was told by his PA, Fitch, that the next stop was to sign some autographs that were to be delivered to orphanages and children hospitals. Since JFF can't visit personally every hospital and orphanage, he felt that this would be some small part in helping these children"
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:56 pm to NYCAuburn
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they can prove one would reasonably know, which is all they need
Is it reasonable to assume that someone who isn't autistic would realize that, upon signing a thousand autographs for a single person they didn't even know, someone was getting paid?
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:56 pm to MrSEC
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:57 pm to darkhorse
IMO, Dan Wetzel's yahoo article hit the nail on the head... the NCAA will have a very difficult time proving payment was made... in all likelihood, JM plays the entire season.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:57 pm to darkhorse
Auburn fought tooth and nail and hired the very best lawyers. The Newtons let Auburn handle it.
Sounds like Mr. Manziel is breaking ranks from his comments previously in the magazine article. Sounds like they think they are above the interests of the school. Sounds like they don't give a crap if he gets disqualified or not.
That was a shot across the bow for the admin of A&M. NO PLAYER no matter how good is above the interests of the school as a whole.
Even if there is no evidence of money changing hands, this is the kind of stuff that poisons a locker room.
Sounds like Mr. Manziel is breaking ranks from his comments previously in the magazine article. Sounds like they think they are above the interests of the school. Sounds like they don't give a crap if he gets disqualified or not.
That was a shot across the bow for the admin of A&M. NO PLAYER no matter how good is above the interests of the school as a whole.
Even if there is no evidence of money changing hands, this is the kind of stuff that poisons a locker room.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:58 pm to darkhorse
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Jff was told by his PA, Fitch, that the next stop was to sign some autographs that were to be delivered to orphanages and children hospitals. Since JFF can't visit personally every hospital and orphanage, he felt that this would be some small part in helping these children"
And posts like this are why I said:
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One day you'll look back on some of your posts in response to this situation and you'll laugh...at yourself and how you sounded like a naive homer.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 2:59 pm to Blakely Bimbo
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Auburn fought tooth and nail and hired the very best lawyers. The Newtons let Auburn handle it.
Well ,it's an on going investigation.
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