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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:03 pm to darkhorse
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:03 pm to darkhorse
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He's going to be fine anyway you look at it. He has an out. An Escape Goat! His name is Fitch.
The loophole was not closed. They expanded the definition of an agent to include parents for the enrollment. As in asking for money to sign.
Have they dealt with personal assistants who are rouge?
And this is something that was quickly addressed on A&M boards and why the panic is at a minimum.
The entire premise of many ranters arguments for why he's screwed (closed Cecil Newton loophole) is flawed. The two situations are not equivalent and, if it went down like that with Fitch requesting money for an autograph session, the new rule doesn't apply.
There is no rule or precedent that calls for punishment in that scenario if there is no proof Manziel knew of or saw any money. Whether he actually did or not matters not.
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:03 pm to Duke
Just don't return any of the NCAA's phone calls, and you'll ride through the storm...
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:03 pm to Duke
Meet Johnny's head of PR... 
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:03 pm to heartbreakTiger
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well they weren't going to win shite either way so you are right not a big deal.
That being true or not, odds are better to win more with Manziel than without him.
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If a&m gets in trouble though then sumlin might bolt and the flagship is going to sail past them even quicker
Sounds like aTm is in the clear with this, beside the possibility of playing an ineligible player down the road. No worries.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:04 pm to lowspark12
I hope the whole A&M shithouse goes up in flames, just for allowing an "uncle nate" to exist.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:04 pm to Duke
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So the NCAA can tell a school a kid is eligible, then decide he's not, and punish the school for playing him?
Derrick Rose and Rhett Bomar.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:05 pm to wmr
dude's a real winner...
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:05 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:The NCAA ruled 4 weeks but that was after UGA had already held him out for the 1st 2 or 3 games until the ruling came down...
refresh me on AJ, wasn't the four games actually supposed to be less but it was delayed or something?
Strange ruling tho, Green got 4 weeks for the jersey & Darius only got 2 weeks for the free trip to SoBe & $10,000(or whatever amount it was)...
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:06 pm to lowspark12
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Meet Johnny's head of PR...
The puzzle is starting to really come together.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:07 pm to dallasga6
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Strange ruling tho, Green got 4 weeks for the jersey & Darius only got 2 weeks for the free trip to SoBe & $10,000(or whatever amount it was)...
that's what I thought, but wasn't darius before the season and they ruled 4 and dropped to 2 after appeal?
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:07 pm to wmr
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I hope the whole A&M shithouse goes up in flames, just for allowing an "uncle nate" to exist.
We didn't. He is a high school dropout who does not attend A&M and doesn't live anywhere near College Station.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:07 pm to Duke
I think the only way A&M can get in trouble is if they tried to hide it. Worst case scenario for them is that he's ineligible.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:08 pm to Roger Klarvin
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He is a high school dropout who does not attend A&M
Can you get into A&M as a HS dropout?
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:09 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:Not sure.. A.J. was investigated about the SoBe trip, he didn't go but they checked his bank records & he fessed up to sellin' the jersey...
that's what I thought, but wasn't darius before the season and they ruled 4 and dropped to 2 after appeal?
Seems like Darius got off light cause his mom had died or something...
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:10 pm to Bellabama
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“ … an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain …”
This is their definition of an agent. Looks like Uncle Nate fits.
The only contingency for a player who "didn't know" about money exchanges if it was said player's parent though. For Manziel to get in trouble based on the rules in place, they still have to show that he either told Fitch to seek out money for his time or found out about it after the fact. If Manziel can claim ignorance over his friend asking for money, nothing will happen.
This is all assuming of course that these "anonymous" sources are real/legit.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:12 pm to dallasga6
They said at the time Dareus was really helpful and his mom had just died, and that he was the most helpful person they'd ever investigated. I think he narked.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:13 pm to NYCAuburn
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Can you get into A&M as a HS dropout?
Nate's only a college dropout... the wright thompson peice just said 'dropout'... didn't specify what he actually dropped out of.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:14 pm to NYCAuburn
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before the season and they ruled 4 and dropped to 2 after appeal
yes. And what Bella said.
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:15 pm to Alahunter
So, what's going on in here?
Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:16 pm to NYCAuburn
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Can you get into A&M as a HS dropout?
He probably went to Blinn like Cam Netwon.
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