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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:43 pm to
Posted by cyde
He gone
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:43 pm to
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Lots of smoke, still no flames yet.

Or could it be that we can't see the flames for all the smoke?
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:45 pm to
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Like I said earlier the average at UGA between Pell Grants & housing allowances is $1300/mth..


I was just a walk on but my room mates were scholarship guys. They would blow their off campus checks on stupid shite like TVs, couches, video game systems, alcohol, strip clubs, and a couple days after getting the check they'd be out of money knocking on my bedroom door asking for money so they can eat. I'd tell them too bad, so sad that you blew through $1,000+ in 3 days.

NCAA athletes would not be able to handle the money anyway. 95% of them would blow it on worthless shite.

They are already taken care of.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:46 pm to
Income does not mean profit. See if you can find out what the NCAA profit is.
Posted by cyde
He gone
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31877 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:47 pm to
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videos still do not show manziel being given money. just show him signing shite

They have him implicitly admitting to accepting money. Combined with the litany of other stuff out there, it's probably going to be enough for the NCAA to recommend that A&M sit him indefinitely.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:47 pm to
They don't allow hearsay evidence anymore so I assume that Joe Shaad can't testify however if any of these guys tells them that they gave or saw money changing hands or they just decide that enough smoke equals fire (Rare but has happened) then they can just suspend him.

There is no due process, no real legal recourse like you guys think. Lightfoot keep them from getting what they needed in Camgate, and created the loophole and that keep Cam alive. However, there was never anyone that told anyone they saw the money being exchanged, etc.

To me the real player was Slive. He is the real fixer. The NCAA knows it is done with football in a few years and really is ready to be done with it. This really puts A&M in a box.

But unlike Camgate there is way too much talk on this deal, and I am sure there are as many UT big daddy warbuck alums looking to buy the tape (Figuratively) as there are A&M guys. That tape will probably be enough to retire JFF and it has to be worth Millions now.

Does anyone on here really believe this guy, that sales autographs for a living, isn't going to sell it to the highest bidder? Now thanks to ESPN the whole world knows about it, and that it is for sale. I bet ESPN will even bid on it. (LOL)

I am sure there are Whitehorse associates burning midnight oil to think of some way to claim some Alabama state law was violated, etc. to seek an injunction or something on the tape. But them are there any A&M Judges on the Bench in Bama?
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14924 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:47 pm to
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I'm not saying they shouldn't give them the overflow, but by time that is divided up across the board to all NCAA athletes then its not going to be enough to prevent any of this type of thing from occurring.



No it wont, but how can you justify players attempting to make money from their name when the NCAA has become a multi billion dollar organization partly because of that.

Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16355 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:48 pm to
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I was just a walk on but my room mates were scholarship guys. They would blow their off campus checks on stupid shite like TVs, couches, video game systems, alcohol, strip clubs, and a couple days after getting the check they'd be out of money knocking on my bedroom door asking for money so they can eat. I'd tell them too bad, so sad that you blew through $1,000+ in 3 days. NCAA athletes would not be able to handle the money anyway. 95% of them would blow it on worthless shite. They are already taken care of.


POTY
Posted by super egg
Jacksonville Fl
Member since Oct 2012
560 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:48 pm to
As much as I hate to say this, we are probably just a short time away from an announcement that JFF has been dismissed from the team....
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63233 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:49 pm to
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As much as I hate to say this, we are probably just a short time away from an announcement that JFF has been dismissed from the team....


frickIN QUITTER
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:49 pm to
I don't know if its hearsay if he saw the tape. It would be hearsay as far as what the broker told him, but as far as what he heard on the tape would be first hand I would assume.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:49 pm to
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Like I said - off campus checks, meal stipends of $36 a day when the campus is closed for holidays, etc., as well as pell grants, clothing checks of $250 a semester, vacation stipends when, for example, teams practice for bowls during the Holidays so they can go home and visit family.



An article I found interesting, about what universities can pay.

LINK
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
29328 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:50 pm to
People have mentioned about A&M boosters purchasing the tapes to keep this out of the medias view. How about CBS execs? Manziel in that 2:30 time slot against Bama is a helluva lot more valuable than joe schmo at QB and A&M getting trucked.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
26657 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21300 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:50 pm to
Bama has the tree killer, we have serial ostriches that bury their head in the sand and wish for desired outcomes.

Hopefully this person is young and dumb. Like a 20 year old. I've said it all along... you young people are idiots.
Posted by super egg
Jacksonville Fl
Member since Oct 2012
560 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:50 pm to
I'm not quitting. this just feels imminent. hope to hell I am wrong though!
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28973 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:50 pm to
Broker says that he won't cooperate with the NCAA...but he sure is talking a lot.

As far as evidence goes...if the guy is a legit broker...licensed, doing everything above board with the IRS, with meticulous business records...my guess is that would be more than enough for the NCAA. If it's good enough for evidence of a deductible business expense for the IRS, it probably good enough for the NCAA, should the guy at some point decide to cooperate.

He says he isn't going to cooperate, but he's talking to ESPN and letting them see the video for free? Why?
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31877 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:51 pm to
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A&M will evaluate options. That is what the Law firm was hired to advise on.

At this point, I think the lawfirm is involved more to protect A&M's interests than to protect Manziel's, maybe even including a lawsuit from the Manziels against A&M.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74194 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:51 pm to
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As much as I hate to say this, we are probably just a short time away from an announcement that JFF has been dismissed from the team....


anything in particular leading you to this assumption? or just self-speculation?

not judging, just curious what would make you think/say that.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72114 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:52 pm to
500 a semester is a joke

Julio had an escalade in HS

they're fine
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
149794 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:52 pm to
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anything in particular leading you to this assumption? or just self-speculation?

not judging, just curious what would make you think/say that.

hes an alter a&m troll. thats the reason he is saying that
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