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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

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Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
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Of course not, but a court of law still has the right to overturn the NCAA ruling and, if said ruling is based on something inadmissible in court, it would get thrown out.


Nope. Not how it works. Seriously
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
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YES...See Dez Bryant. He was found to have done NOTHING wrong..but, he LIED about it...GONE


What has Manziel lied about? He hasn't spoken to ANYONE in the NCAA about this.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
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Litigation brings subpoena power...Neither aTm or the Manziels will want to go down this road...


Depends on how well they covered their tracks. If the Manziel's were smart about it, it wont matter.
These brokers won't cooperate with the NCAA but I bet their arse will cooperate with the court when perjury & jail time is on the line for lying, tampering with or withholding evidence...

These brokers are businessmen... not crooks...
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm
Posted by GeauxAggie972
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
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you should know that Manziel has threatened transfer to another school if Sumlin sits him


So instead of going pro after this season, he will sit the WHOLE season out, then play another season of college football with the Longhorns, a team that wanted him as a safety?

Either your boosters know nothing or you have no boosters that you know
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
I want him to play because I want Alabama to get another shot. We love our mulligans.
Posted by gnarkill1529
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
Trey do you think schad and ESPN have the goods?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
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What has Manziel lied about? He hasn't spoken to ANYONE in the NCAA about this.


GRRRR...I was answering the poster's own hypothetical.


ETA the OP's quote:

quote:

Will they be willing to suspend him for saying "I was never here"?





Since it is on video..obviously, that would be a lie
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Posted by CockInYourEar
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
"On the videos, which the broker said were recorded without Manziel's knowledge, ESPN heard Manziel say "you never did a signing with me" and that if the broker were to tell anyone, he would refuse to deal with him again in the future. Manziel, who appeared comfortable throughout the video recordings, also said if asked, he would say he had simply been approached by various autograph seekers.

At one point, ESPN heard a broker ask Manziel if he would take additional cash to sign with special inscriptions, but Manziel declined, indicating he had done that before and it led to questions. The video does not show Manziel accepting cash, which the broker alleges happened three times. The broker told ESPN Manziel said he wanted money for new rims for his vehicle."

from the latest ESPN article
https://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/9544137/broker-says-johnny-manziel-took-7500-autographing-helmets

Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:47 pm to
And the aftermath of playing said mulligan.
Posted by RoughRider
Third Coast
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm to


Next in line,
Kenny Hill
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm to
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Of course not, but a court of law still has the right to overturn the NCAA ruling and, if said ruling is based on something inadmissible in court


Doubt that's how it would work but lets just assume it did. That way in 3 years after discovery motion filing and witness depositions you guys reinstate his eligibility...
Posted by lowspark12
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm to
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The broker said he does not intend to cooperate with the ongoing NCAA investigation involving Manziel and autographs, originally reported Sunday by Outside the Lines.


all that matters
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm to
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If they sit him, they face a suit from the family


There is no fricking way a lawsuit can be based upon a coach not playing a kid.......if they kick him off, then that's another matter. But, playing time? No.
Posted by Hog Leg
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm to
Instead of finishing his career strong and going down as one of the most heralded athletes in Texas history, he's going to be a pariah that is loathed the state over. He went from never having to buy another beer for himself for the rest of his life to having beer bottles thrown at him and his Benzy keyed at every oppty.

Someone forgot to tell JFF not to shite where he sleeps.

Regardless of how his career proceeds after A&M, if this stuff is true, he'll regret how he treated A&M for this rest of life. What a clown...
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 2:52 pm
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm to
Does anybody in this thread understand how the NCAA works?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm to
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Of course not, but a court of law still has the right to overturn the NCAA ruling and, if said ruling is based on something inadmissible in court, it would get thrown out.




You've been watching too much Franklin & Bash.
Posted by The_Joker
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:48 pm to
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Last sentence means it's a nonstory and nothing will come of it. It's just about publicity.
LINK



No it just means it won't get to the NCAA until he gets paid. And he WILL get paid.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:49 pm to
I do!
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Of course not, but a court of law still has the right to overturn the NCAA ruling


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