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re: As the Hedges burn - just the beginning, Kirby is freaking out
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:06 pm to tylerdurden24
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:06 pm to tylerdurden24
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when Auburn and Bama backed off because of grades
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:06 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
I’ve met plenty of college coaches over the years, Kirby included. Take my word for it or go off the third hand information you get from the internet. Your call.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:07 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Is that not what happened? Did we just beat you straight up? Damn, that’s embarrassing. No wonder y’all think we cheat
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:20 pm to tylerdurden24
A lot more suspicious about Pickens than just him magically qualifying. When he surprised everyone and picked uga, several auburn players took to social media stating he was paid. I've seen a lot of fans have sour grapes but never players. What makes this even more fishy is that he showed up in auburn Sunday before NSD. Don't know what for but I wonder if he was trying to get a matching offer or something.
I didn't follow Deans recruitment nearly as much. I believe everyone in Oxford including the staff thought he was headed there until a phone call from Kirby or someone at uga very shortly before he announced which changed his mind.
Whatever he's doing over there I wish auburn would do the same otherwise we'all be starting walk-ons on our OL next year.
I didn't follow Deans recruitment nearly as much. I believe everyone in Oxford including the staff thought he was headed there until a phone call from Kirby or someone at uga very shortly before he announced which changed his mind.
Whatever he's doing over there I wish auburn would do the same otherwise we'all be starting walk-ons on our OL next year.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:41 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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so sharply, so quickly and so strangely that it didn't make any other sense from outsiders looking in
Cool... so if it was so sudden, abrupt, and startling, you have clear examples of guys that we should not have landed that we did and the only logical explanation is not just cheating - but cheating at a higher and more aggressive level than all of our competition?
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:41 pm to tylerdurden24
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I’ve met plenty of college coaches over the years, Kirby included. Take my word for it or go off the third hand information you get from the internet. Your call
I'm sure...you haven't other than the autograph line at mid level booster functions.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:43 pm to Serraneaux
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:45 pm to aujerm
Pickens we had been working on hard since right around the time that we seemed to be losing Haselwood... It's not like these recruitments happen in a vacuum.
Auburn finished the year poorly with a lot of swirling doubt around Gus... We then had multiple receivers declare for the draft opening up a lot of potential playing time. We pushed through where others seemingly backed off due to grade concerns.
I followed Dean's recruitment plenty. There was a *lot* of chaos on signing day... I was sitting next to Rusty where he got multiple texts that he flashed me throughout the day (including from staff at different schools) stating that he was going to a different school from each one. No one had a fricking clue where he was going until about 5 minutes before his announcement.
Auburn finished the year poorly with a lot of swirling doubt around Gus... We then had multiple receivers declare for the draft opening up a lot of potential playing time. We pushed through where others seemingly backed off due to grade concerns.
I followed Dean's recruitment plenty. There was a *lot* of chaos on signing day... I was sitting next to Rusty where he got multiple texts that he flashed me throughout the day (including from staff at different schools) stating that he was going to a different school from each one. No one had a fricking clue where he was going until about 5 minutes before his announcement.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:53 pm to fibonaccisquared
The 2017 signing class that finished #3 is the only one that someone coudl point to as being "unusual". However, it achieved a high ranking in large part due to:
-Fromm, who was committed ot bama but loved kirby and followed him to UGA
-Lecounte, Netori, Beal, Holloman, Thomas, Gibbs...who are all from GA. People ripped on richt for not keeping immense GA talent home, kirby sold that vision of staying and playing for the home state and then people think it's odd..
-Isaiah Wilson. This one was a surprise, but we have the best OL coach and recruiter in all of college football so it's less surprising
-Webb and Swift. They are college teammates and swift wanted to continue the legacy of great UGA rbs, so again not out of the ordinary.
No other class should really be deemed all that unusual. The '16 class was mostly richt's. In 2017 we played for a natty so the '18 class makes perfect sense building on that momentum.
People are just upset that we're finally recruiting at a level better than they're used to seeing under richt.
-Fromm, who was committed ot bama but loved kirby and followed him to UGA
-Lecounte, Netori, Beal, Holloman, Thomas, Gibbs...who are all from GA. People ripped on richt for not keeping immense GA talent home, kirby sold that vision of staying and playing for the home state and then people think it's odd..
-Isaiah Wilson. This one was a surprise, but we have the best OL coach and recruiter in all of college football so it's less surprising
-Webb and Swift. They are college teammates and swift wanted to continue the legacy of great UGA rbs, so again not out of the ordinary.
No other class should really be deemed all that unusual. The '16 class was mostly richt's. In 2017 we played for a natty so the '18 class makes perfect sense building on that momentum.
People are just upset that we're finally recruiting at a level better than they're used to seeing under richt.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:59 pm to WG_Dawg
You guys are unbelievably, stupidly delusional. There are teams who won National Championships that don't even sniff the way Kirby is recruiting at UGA.
In the end, it's stupid to argue with you guys -- even with evidence you guys will come out and say "OH WE BEEN WORKIN' ON DEM BOYS SO HARD, KIRBY'S JUST 'CRUITIN'."
I'm just here to see the beginning of the end. Most UGA insiders have confirmed that it was a recruiting compliance issue, but this isn't the first problem that'll surface. Enjoy it while it lasts.
In the end, it's stupid to argue with you guys -- even with evidence you guys will come out and say "OH WE BEEN WORKIN' ON DEM BOYS SO HARD, KIRBY'S JUST 'CRUITIN'."
I'm just here to see the beginning of the end. Most UGA insiders have confirmed that it was a recruiting compliance issue, but this isn't the first problem that'll surface. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:01 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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There are teams who won National Championships that don't even sniff the way Kirby is recruiting at UGA.
Name them
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:05 pm to WG_Dawg
I don't know why UGA fans on here feel the need to defend what Kirby is doing?
He's an ace recruiter, in a state over run with talent, he's hired a get support staff who can all evaluate and develop talent, he's proven he's got the program moving in a positive direction and he puts players in the pro's. It is what it is, there's no need to defend his classes to anyone. Life's short Dawgs, ENJOY this shite!
He's an ace recruiter, in a state over run with talent, he's hired a get support staff who can all evaluate and develop talent, he's proven he's got the program moving in a positive direction and he puts players in the pro's. It is what it is, there's no need to defend his classes to anyone. Life's short Dawgs, ENJOY this shite!
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:05 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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even with evidence you guys will come out and say
can you please show us any of this evidence you speak of?
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I'm just here to see the beginning of the end
I love this. A staffer has been fired for not listening to her superiors over minor infractions and this will bring the program down. Interesting.
Btw aren't you the one on your board that is convinced that UF doesnt' cheat in any way and is a perfectly clean program?
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:07 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Jesus frick this board is going full retard. Georgia was always considered a sleeping giant when it came to recruiting now that they start to recruit on Bama's level suddenly it's cheating
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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unbelievably, stupidly delusional
Sooo... we're just stating our opinions now... cool..
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There are teams who won National Championships that don't even sniff the way Kirby is recruiting at UGA
What specifically are you referring to? The overall volume of recruits? The number of 5*s? What is it that you believe is so wildly incongruous with UGA's expected recruiting for a team that has been in the national championship game and then followed that up with a 5th place finish in the final CFP rankings prior to the bowl games?
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it's stupid to argue with you guys
One would argue the same could be said with you and others on this board.
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even with evidence you guys will come out and say "OH WE BEEN WORKIN' ON DEM BOYS SO HARD, KIRBY'S JUST 'CRUITIN'."
Is there evidence now? Again, we're not talking about run of the mill cheating that happens at literally every P5 campus, right? You're talking about something above and beyond what is happening at other schools? Because if you're talking about $100 handshakes, you'll likely not find a rational mind at ANY school who thinks this doesn't happen.
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I'm just here to see the beginning of the end. Most UGA insiders have confirmed that it was a recruiting compliance issue, but this isn't the first problem that'll surface. Enjoy it while it lasts.
Most UGA insiders have not confirmed it was a "compliance" issue in terms of a specific violation... rather that it was repeated refusal to follow internal compliance *policies*... those two things are not equivalent. You can have more rigid policies internally than what is required by the NCAA...
What evidence do you have that more will continue to surface. More wishful thinking?
I say this not as someone who thinks it's impossible to believe that we could be cheating... shite I hope we are. The NCAA has proven that they have next to no ability to police it so run wild... IDGAF. But to date, there is no credible evidence to believe that UGA is doing anything more than what is happening elsewhere other than hurt feelings.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:18 pm to dawgfan24348
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Jesus frick this board is going full retard. Georgia was always considered a sleeping giant when it came to recruiting now that they start to recruit on Bama's level suddenly it's cheating
Under Richt: UGA is letting everyone in-state leave for rival programs! Yall only have the 5th or 6th class in the SEC, even with all that talent at home! Why don't yall recruit better!??
Under Kirby: Yall are recruiting too good! This is illogical! You must be cheating!
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:20 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Most UGA insiders have not confirmed it was a "compliance" issue in terms of a specific violation... rather that it was repeated refusal to follow internal compliance *policies*... those two things are not equivalent. You can have more rigid policies internally than what is required by the NCAA...
True story. I know a couple guys that worked on the team in the richt era. One guy was getting some things together for a recruiting weekend and had a jersey set up on a mannequin and mcgarity personally cussed the dude out for breaking some kind of by-law. Granted those specific rules, whatever they may be, could have changed as I've seen jerseys on mannequins before. The point is that based on the information available it is ENTIRELY possible that someone told this girl daisha "hey quit doign [x]" and she said that's dumb as frick no I'm going to keep doing it and she was hten fired for it.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:24 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You are full of shite. Name some UGA insiders that have said that there is a recruiting compliance issue. I think its hilarious to watch tools like you talk shite. You only do it because you completely now realize how much you are being out recruited, out coached and just straight up beat on the field and that it is not ending any time soon.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:25 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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even with evidence
Where's the evidence? Speculation =/= evidence
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:30 pm to WG_Dawg
Hell, I even shared some speculation on our board that it could go so far as something to do with hotels and recruits, but that was pure speculation from another place where some info gets shared... No one with any knowledge of the program has let on that it could be anything more than a minor violation, if that at all.
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