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As Auburn brings Freeze back to the SEC, don't forget about the mess he made at Ole Miss

Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:18 pm
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Back up to January of 2016, Ole Miss was about to get slammed by the NCAA with 15 Level I violations in the program. Freeze knew it would be bad because he was in the middle of it, eventually hit with a “lack of institutional control” charge and given a one-year “show-cause” penalty.

At the time, however, the details were still secret. Freeze was concerned that if the depth of the violations and likely sanctions became public, some of his players might transfer. After all, Ole Miss was about to take on a two-year postseason ban, not to mention a loss of scholarships.

Further, members of the Rebels recruiting class might get nervous and switch their verbal commitments before signing binding letters of intent.

Freeze knew the program couldn’t risk his players, recruits or their families from knowing the truth of what was coming.

So Ole Miss chose to deceive them. The athletic department orchestrated a massive misinformation campaign by repeatedly supplying the media with off-the-record lies about what was at the heart of the NCAA case.

The school kept telling anyone with a keyboard or a microphone that most of the major violations occurred under former coach Houston Nutt, and not Freeze. As such, the story went, the Rebels would be able to avoid significant sanctions.

This was not true, though. The vast majority of the violations came under Freeze, not Nutt. Freeze knew the truth. So did Ole Miss.

Still, the plan went forward. Part of it was in the media and part of it was Freeze reportedly lying directly to players and recruits and their families who asked him about it. He stared right into their eyes and told him the lie.

The goal was obvious: trick everyone who believed in Hugh Freeze, who trusted Hugh Freeze, who gave their blood, sweat and tears to Hugh Freeze until, when the truth came out later via the NCAA infractions report, it was either too late or too hard to transfer. Remember this was before the NCAA had its more forgiving transfer portal program.

This was about trapping them. It’s a brutal and cutthroat thing to do to your own players and their parents, but hey, that’s the choice Hugh Freeze and Ole Miss made.

It certainly worked. By the time the NCAA report became public, signing day had come and gone. A lot of guys were stuck. Players that sought transfers were then hit with significant restrictions preventing where they could go. (Ole Miss eventually relented under immense media pressure). The hurt feelings lingered.

“We expected them to be about truth and honesty, and we got the exact opposite,” Shawn Jefferson, whose son, Van, was a leading receiver for the team in 2017, told Yahoo Sports back at the time. Van Jefferson now plays for the Los Angeles Rams.


As Auburn brings Hugh Freeze back to the SEC, don't forget about the mess he once made at Ole Miss
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:22 pm to
If you’re scared, just say you’re scared.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:23 pm to
“Freeze > Kiffin”

— Grateful Reb
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68475 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:25 pm to
It’s probably a good thing I don’t run the AD because I have no issue with how they handled the 2016 class. Was it shady? Absolutely. But it ended up saving our asses from having a complete collapse while Luke was waddling around as our HC for a few years
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 7:26 pm
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:30 pm to
They just got Gus'd with Kiffin's new contract. We know it, and they know it.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2918 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:33 pm to
Lost 4 of 5 and got a raise and extension. Old Mrs folks are nothing if not shrewd businessmen.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
59443 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:34 pm to
quote:

So Ole Miss chose to deceive them. The athletic department orchestrated a massive misinformation campaign by repeatedly supplying the media with off-the-record lies about what was at the heart of the NCAA case.

The school kept telling anyone with a keyboard or a microphone that most of the major violations occurred under former coach Houston Nutt, and not Freeze. As such, the story went, the Rebels would be able to avoid significant sanctions.

This was not true, though. The vast majority of the violations came under Freeze, not Nutt. Freeze knew the truth. So did Ole Miss.

Who was the Ole Miss AD at the time? Sounds like a scoundrel.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68475 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:36 pm to
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Lost 4 of 5 and got a raise and extension.
Do you really want to compare the last few weeks of the season our head coach had versus y’all’s?
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2918 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:37 pm to
Caddy?
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68475 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:37 pm to
Freeze is your head coach now. You know, the one that lost his final 3 games to UConn, 3 win Va Tech and got blasted on senior day 49-14 by 4 win New Mexico State?
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 7:39 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38745 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:40 pm to
Didn't Houston Nutt attorney find hooker?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:40 pm to
What was Ole Miss's record the year before Freeze arrived?
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
2918 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:41 pm to
Yeah, he wasn't our coach then, was at Liberty University and still finished better than Lane.

Also, let's compare the contracts.

Try another dose of copium.
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted by BurnsideStyle
Member since May 2014
1760 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:43 pm to
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They just got Gus'd with Kiffin's new contract. We know it, and they know it.


I think y’all may have picked up the WAOM rash with all this media coming your way.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:45 pm to
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Yeah, he wasn't our coach then, was at Liberty University and still finished better than Lane.

Also, let's compare the contracts.

Try another dose of copium.


Ummmmm....They both had a common opponent towards the end of the season. I forget, how'd that turn out?
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:46 pm to
I thought the main reason Hugh got fired was because OM did not settle with Nutt fast enough?
Posted by ALhunter
Member since Dec 2018
2933 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 7:46 pm to
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They just got Gus'd with Kiffin's new contract. We know it, and they know it.
JIMBO'd
Posted by Grateful Reb
Member since Apr 2011
8070 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

Try another dose of copium.


Auburn tried to hire our coach and failed. You had to settle for Freeze.

Only one coping in this scenario is Auburn after getting rejected
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 8:08 pm
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51817 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
11856 posts
Posted on 11/28/22 at 8:14 pm to
I said it last week that the AU hire would make OM fans Melt either way Kiffin or Freeze, I actually think a few like Referee, Grateful, Henry and Rebeloke have fractured their vaginas today.

This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 8:16 pm
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