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re: As an LSU fan, why should I want Kiffin? Honestly, I don't.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:12 pm to AlaTiger
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:12 pm to AlaTiger
I appreciate what Kiffin has done for us the last couple of years, but sometimes he will call plays in games that make me say wtf? Notably the OM, AU and tOSU games in '14, OM in '15. And WKU this year - why run a high risk play late in the game, deep in your own territory when the game is almost over?
He's almost a Doug Nussmeier with a more imaginative passing game.
He's almost a Doug Nussmeier with a more imaginative passing game.
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Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:16 pm to SmokeTide
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That being said so many of LSU posters have criticized Kiffin prior and during his time under Saban but want him as an OC now.
Not me. I think he relies on superior talent as a crutch. Obviously, it would be stupid not to use your advantages.
But give Bama the #25 defense instead of the #1 defense.. and what is Bamas record during his time there?
Not to mention frequent defensive scores and a typically excellent return game giving him great field position
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:20 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Bama doesn't win the natty last year without the job Kiffin did with Coker. Fact. They don't win the SEC the year before without the job Kiffin did with Sims. Fact.
Just because you say "fact" at the end of your sentence doesn't make it an actual fact. I think Kiffin has done a good job, but there's nothing saying we wouldn't have had another good OC if Kiffin hadn't been here. For example, in conference play, Bama averaged just as many or more points per game in 2012 and 2013 as Kiffin's offenses have. So, it's not like we're in some uncharted water with him calling plays.
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This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:20 pm to bmy
Without the OL he has had, Kiffin is mediocre.
Which would be an improvement over CamLes, but still DON'T WANT.
Which would be an improvement over CamLes, but still DON'T WANT.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:27 pm to Teague
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For example, in conference play, Bama averaged just as many or more points per game in 2012 and 2013 as Kiffin's offenses have
Comparing AJ to sims Coker and hurts?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:29 pm to bmy
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Comparing AJ to sims Coker and hurts?
No, I'm comparing offenses.
*Edited because I lost track of the years.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:40 pm to AlaTiger
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We definitely need a better OC. Kiffin would be an upgrade. I'm just not sure that he is the best we can get.
But would it be a bad hire, like you said about 20 times in the thread from TD that was linked earlier in this thread?
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:50 pm to AlaTiger
and that is what Saban is always chewing him out about.
How do you know that's what Sabin is chewing him out about.
How do you know that's what Sabin is chewing him out about.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 2:00 pm to ArabianKnight
Kiffin seems to be only successful in a controlled environment...under Saban...I'm scared of Orgeron just letting him do what he wants. Everything Saban does works,bringing in Kiffin..but on a leash. I also don't like his character issues. I just don't think he'd be as successful under Orgeron.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 3:06 pm to AlaTiger
Let Bama keep him!
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:07 pm to BamaGradinTn
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No one ever accused Sims and Coker of being NFL talent.
I don't think it was Sims and Coker that the other poster was talking about. It might be the other 30 + players that they can rotate in and out without missing a beat on both sides of the ball.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 4:43 pm to Crimson Legend
I consider Kiffin to LSU, if it does happen, to be a high risk, high reward situation. It will be very very good or very very bad.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:38 pm to SmokeTide
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That being said so many of LSU posters have criticized Kiffin prior and during his time under Saban but want him as an OC now.
to be fair...99.9% of that criticism were for him as a head coach
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:41 pm to AlaTiger
I don't think he's that great, but obviously he's done well with Bama.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:41 pm to SmokeTide
The vast majority of that criticism was completely warranted, and you know it.
And don't ever use "fabulous" when talking about football again you fairy.
And don't ever use "fabulous" when talking about football again you fairy.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:50 pm to AlaTiger
OP, I give you props. Kiffin is LSU's Chavis Moment and you realize that.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 5:56 pm to AlaTiger
1. No more toss-dive.
2. He's better than 40% of the current OCs
2. He's better than 40% of the current OCs
Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:27 pm to AlaTiger
Mike Norvell is who LSU should be looking at.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 7:34 pm to AlaTiger
A great defense covers the mistakes of an OC.
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:08 pm to AlaTiger
I don't want him either. Never did! Still think he's an immature loser with no class!
His wife finally came to reality and dumped his stupid arse! Smart woman!
His wife finally came to reality and dumped his stupid arse! Smart woman!
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