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re: Arrest made in Rod Bramblett accident

Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:19 pm to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62786 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:19 pm to
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For two people to die from a rear end collision, the dude that hit them had to be doing over 75 or 80 miles an hour I would guess.


Depends on seat belt situation as well.

I've said over and over, the position of their headrests plays a larger role than seatbelts in an accident like this.


In the above photo, you can see the 2017 Highlander headrests (or properly called "head restraints") are somewhat small, and the top of the seat is only average height.
Especially with a slightly off-center rear impact (as described in the accident report) the Brambletts' heads were jerked to the rear and to the left, probably their heads never touching the head restraints.
High speed will make it worse, but a high speed is not needed to cause a fatal injury with this type impact. My guess the teen could have been travelling as low as 40 - 50 mph to cause the fatality.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51274 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:37 pm to
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A 16-year-old has been charged as an adult (two counts of manslaughter) after police say an investigation revealed excessive speeding and marijuana in his system.


That kid is so fricked. Wow.
Posted by Fatboy22
Birmingham AL
Member since Aug 2018
1063 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:52 pm to
No kid should be charged as an adult unless it was a violent act. This is not a violent act. Stupid and tragic but not violent.
Posted by howieshoodlums
Member since Dec 2016
940 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

My guess the teen could have been travelling as low as 40 - 50 mph to cause the fatality.


Then your guess would be wrong.

On June 28th, 2019 the Auburn Police Division received a report from the Alabama Law Enforcement Agency’s Traffic Homicide Unit confirming that Taylor’s vehicle was traveling at an excessive rate of speed, well over the posted 55 mph speed limit, when the crash occurred.

Since the posted speed limit is 55 mph and he is being charged with excessive speeding, probably 20 mph over, he was doing 70 to 75 mph.
Posted by Uncle Don
The Big House
Member since Jul 2018
4229 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:02 pm to
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No one over 30 is happy to see a 16 year old arrested for something like this. I don't see how this helps anyone.


May help the next 16 year old that is out there thinking it is a good idea to get fricked up and drive
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62786 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:03 pm to
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Then your guess would be wrong.

I didn't say that was the kid's speed, I said a fatality could occur, even with an impact as low as 40- 50.
Try to keep up.
Posted by howieshoodlums
Member since Dec 2016
940 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

My guess the teen could have been travelling as low as 40 - 50 mph to cause the fatality.


You try to remember your own post. See where you said the teen and to cause the fatality.

Try to remember what you post.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:43 pm to
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None of that matters. His negligent actions resulted in the death of two people.

He will do less than 4 years.



What good will prison do? It will make a criminal out of him. He needs to pay restitution and do a lot of community service and speak at schools about the dangers of DUI.
Posted by Broadside Bob
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1084 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:43 pm to
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Seems like a bit of a flimsy case. There are no tests(that I know of) that can prove marijuana impairment at the time of the crash, and it can stay in your system for weeks.


LINK /

Sounds like an evolving science (which may indicate why it took a month plus for the results to come back). Turns out, THC is actually an inactive metabolite and is NOT an indicator of impairment, only of prior use. Not a big deal until fairly recently (with the trend towards legalization) as the presence of ANY THC would have proven breaking the law.

So, if one were conducting something like a pre-employment drug screen or a drug screen for and athlete, a test for THC is cheaper, faster, and adequate for those purposes. Testing for impairment sounds like a more extensive analysis.

Regardless, terrible situation with absolutely no winners. If the kid has a conscience (until shown otherwise, I'll assume he does) I suspect he'll do worse to himself for the rest of his life than the law could possibly do. Not suggesting he shouldn't be punished, but keep in mind he'll likely be paying a price that has nothing to do with the law.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10533 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:46 pm to

quote:

You try to remember your own post. See where you said the teen and to cause the fatality. 

Try to remember what you post.



You're wrong.

This is what he said.


quote:

My guess the teen could have been travelling as low as 40 - 50 mph to cause the fatality
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:06 pm to
Now let's legalize this harmless drug everywhere so people can drive while drugged up.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11453 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:12 pm to
The speed limit there, couldn't have been more than 35mph. No way he rear-ended a car at 35mph and killed two people stopped at a light. Dude was flying......fast & high..


Hope they burn his dumb arse!
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:15 pm to
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Cobb Dawg


Keep up with the entire thread.

And to the other guy, the speed limit on that section of that road is 55 mph.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11453 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

East Coast Band



Correct!

Seatbelts are of little use to the victim of a rear-end collision. In the past, deaths in this type of accident occured from improper head restraint. Heads snap backwards. The driver of the instigating car, if not wearing a seatbelt, goes thru the windshield.
Posted by bigman334
Member since Jul 2013
2417 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

The speed limit there, couldn't have been more than 35mph


pretty sure it's 55..they need to police that road. it's like a race track. the speed limit is 55 but most are doing 60-70 easy..it has tons of accidents
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11453 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:02 pm to
I read W. Samford and thought it was downtown.
Posted by Tiger Iron
Middle LA
Member since Apr 2012
2022 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:04 pm to
Damn.. 2 families ruined.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:27 pm to
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No one over 30 is happy to see a 16 year old arrested for something like this. I don't see how this helps anyone.



So in cases like this..........the people who died were just at the wrong place at the wrong time?

People are responsible for their actions..........good and bad. The recklessness of this young man robbed parents, children, friends, brothers and sisters of the deceased. Sorry, but there has to be consequences. It sucks, but losing a loved one sucks too.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:39 pm to

quote:

quote:

Laws and rulings aren't just in place to punish people, they're there to prevent people from breaking the rules.


Um, what? Laws dont prevent people from breaking rules


Selective reading, there??? Laws don't prevent people from breaking the rules, but the penalties (rulings) for breaking them - or violating said laws - are most definitely supposed to, or we need to establish harsher penalties...
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:42 pm to
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Unless the toxicology report can pinpoint the exact time MJ was in this kids system and which specific levels cause quick reflexes or a delayed reaction time, then I'd fight a double manslaughter for my 16 yr old too. Damn, this is horrible for this kid.



It's not too great a deal for Mr. and Mrs. Bramblett, either....
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