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re: Arky -- Predicting the 2013 football outcome...

Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:25 am to
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:25 am to
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You have nothing offensively. You lost your QB, best WR, best RB.

And...

It's not like the backups are a bunch of scrub 2*'s. They just don't have experience. That has nothing to do with their overall talent level.


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What's more, your OL isn't good at all. That's a significant hindrance to Bret's ground and pound you offense.



And Ole Miss' OL is good? That's probably their biggest weakness too. It was terrible last year.

Pittman did a great job turning around both UNC's and Tennessee's OL at his last two jobs. I think I will wait and see what he does before writing them off as terrible. He is a much better OL coach than Klenakis
Posted by DWag215
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:28 am to
OM doesn't play an archaic brand of ball like Bret does. They avoid their deficiencies in the trenches. Bret will exploit his.

Like I said, some guys may emerge for you. But right now, you can't look at that roster and point to the next Hamilton, Davis, or Wilson--at least not legitimately.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 11:30 am
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:30 am to
Our OL problems were much a do with bad coaching. They got worse each year under Klenakis and Arkansas has one of the best centers in the nation. Our line has guys who were very highly recruited. There is a nice piece of talent there.

The biggest loss last season in the running game was Kiero Small being done for the season after the first game. He is probably the most physical FB in the league and was a key in our running game in 2011.

Posted by tickfawtiger
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:32 am to
DUH...that's why it's called a PREDICTION genius...lol
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:33 am to
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OM doesn't play an archaic brand of ball like Bret does. They avoid their deficiencies in the trenches. Bret will exploit his.


So you're predicting that Bielema will find Arkansas' greatest weakness, and then exploit it?

Do you have a learning disability? Serious question.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:34 am to
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OM doesn't play an archaic brand of ball like Bret does. They disguise their deficiencies in the trenches. Bret will exploit his.

Bret also brought in Jim Chaney for the passing game because he knows he won't be able to run it 67% of the time like he did at Wisconsin. At least not right out of the gate. We threw it way more in the spring game than I think most on here would have expected.

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Like I said, some guys may emerge for you. But right now, you can't look at that roster and point to the next Hamilton, Davis, or Wilson--at least not legitimately.


And outside of Moncrief, Ole Miss can?

I think the issue here is that you are trying to compare Arkansas to the talent level of the top teams in the league. OM is still the 4th place team in the West at best this season. They have deficiencies all over their roster still. Freeze is recruiting some very nice talent and will reap the rewards down the road but week 1 in 2013 there will not be a huge talent gap between Ole Miss and Arkansas.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 11:38 am
Posted by DWag215
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:35 am to
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Hawgeye

You're citing a center and a fullback as feature pieces.

Just think about that.
Posted by DWag215
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:36 am to
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So you're predicting that Bielema will find Arkansas' greatest weakness, and then exploit it?

derp.

The point was made to suggest how counter-intuitive Bret's approach is in light of his personnel.

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Do you have a learning disability? Serious question.

Derp.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 11:40 am
Posted by DWag215
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:39 am to
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And outside of Moncrief, Ole Miss can?

Yes. They signed the top rated WR in the country last year. They also signed a kid out of TX last year who was committed to TAMU. Legitimate stud; 4 star kid with 18 TDs as a senior.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:39 am to
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The point was made to suggest how counter-intuitive Bret's approach is in light of his personnel.


First, you don't know what Bret's approach will be.

Second, we have good players on the O line, they were just poorly coached under Klenakis.

You really don't know as much as you think you do.
Posted by DWag215
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:39 am to
It's not my fault. I have a learning disability.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:42 am to
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It's not my fault. I have a learning disability.


It's funny because you misused the quote function and had to edit.

Derp
Posted by piggilicious
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:42 am to
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I think people are blinded by the coaching last season.


if i was an aggie i'd probably try to live in that one year bubble myself.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:43 am to
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Overrated because...?


Because JFF is basically your whole team. Without him, you have a very average looking team. I know you are losing a couple of key receivers and o-linemen. Maybe JFF will be able to carry the team. But I'm not convinced.

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I could see OM sneaking one on us, but they have talent. Arky doesn't.


I think we have about as much talent as they do.

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can't imagine a scenario where Arkansas out scores JFF.

Should be a 4+ TDs W for the Ags.



Maybe, if we play like last season. I think we will be able to control the ball through the run game, so I don't see a lot of blowouts this season.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 11:44 am
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:46 am to
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Yes. They signed the top rated WR in the country last year. They also signed a kid out of TX last year who was committed to TAMU. Legitimate stud; 4 star kid with 18 TDs as a senior.


We signed possibly the best offensive prospect of any SEC team.
Posted by DWag215
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:47 am to
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We signed possibly the best offensive prospect of any SEC team.

Who will run behind a shitty OL.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:48 am to
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Yes. They signed the top rated WR in the country last year. They also signed a kid out of TX last year who was committed to TAMU. Legitimate stud; 4 star kid with 18 TDs as a senior.



We signed the #1 APB in the country. Legitimate stud.

We signed the #3 TE in the country if we are still talking Freshmen here.

Our starting QB was rated higher than either Tyler Wilson or Bo Wallace coming out of high school if we are talking stars which seems to be where you are going with this point.

Our other RB that will be the starter was a stud in Texas HS football and the #12 overall RB two years ago.

A couple of young 4 stars will be in the receiving rotation.

Our center is the #1 center in the SEC. Our starting guards were both in the top 150 coming out of high school they just haven't really played yet.

The talent is there. It just needs the reps and the experience because they are so young. That is why we are looking at a 6-6 type of season this year but we should be set up for very nice years in '14 and '15 as these guys move in to their junior and senior years.

This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 11:50 am
Posted by DWag215
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:49 am to
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Because JFF is basically your whole team. Without him, you have a very average looking team. I know you are losing a couple of key receivers and o-linemen.

I don't understand--fuggin' learning disability. If JFF was basically our whole team, how could any loss be considered "key"?

Please inform.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:51 am to
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Who will run behind a shitty OL.



Actually, I think our run blocking could be one of the strengths of the team. But since we apparently can't talk about centers or fullbacks, I'm not sure what I can say to convince you.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:53 am to
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I don't understand--fuggin' learning disability. If JFF was basically our whole team, how could any loss be considered "key"?

Please inform.



Because he wasn't your whole team last year, but after key losses, he has now become your entire team?


This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 11:54 am
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