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re: Arkansas Inferiority?
Posted on 7/28/12 at 10:51 am to Bernie Moore
Posted on 7/28/12 at 10:51 am to Bernie Moore
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Had you been in SEC all those years instead of SWC,you would have zero championships.
Yeah...OM had no success did they?
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Posted on 7/28/12 at 12:02 pm to sugatowng
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It's because the collective minds of Arky are myopic -- a trait clearly not shared by those who do no look through the same narrow, jaded lens.
There's a reason you're alone in this -- and no, it's not because you "know us." We haven't shared a conference together in 20 years; and our three bouts at Jerryworld do not grant you superior foresight with regard to A&M's future, either.
Arky's vendetta against A&M is driven only by fear. That's it.
So let's get this straight. The fact that we have beat you way more times than you beat us makes us scared, including the last 3 years. Based on some latent traits you are absolutely certain that this great potential that has been discussed since Hitler invaded Poland will immediately come to fruition by moving to the toughest division in the toughest conference in college football. On top of that this is being done with a coach who went 5-7 in cUSA in 2010. The thing is we are alone because everyone else expects some sort of rational outcome to this. They simply do not realize the Aggies capacity for disappointment.
For those interested in further reading see this:
Awful Fanbases
Or this:
quote:Most overrated programs.
1. Texas A&M - Ahhhh...and we've finally arrived at our most overrated program in college football. SEC fans, once you really get to know the Aggies and your buyer's remorse sets in please understand that the Big XII doesn't want them back. A&M is going to compare themselves to Alabama, LSU, and Florida with one exception, they've never won anything! At least Bama, LSU and Florida fans have teams that can back up the overall thoughts of the fanbase on the field while the Aggies are mired in mediocrity and yet trying to portray the lavish life on a true champion.
Raise your hand if you can remember the last time Texas A&M won a national championship. If your hand is in the air then congratulations on being around over 70 years ago and still in good health today. True to their new SEC form the Aggies are now claiming retroactive championships from 1917, 1919 and 1927. Look out Bama, you've got some competition!
In 16 years as a member of the Big XII conference A&M appeared in one BCS bowl game, a 24-14 loss to Ohio State, and had an overall 2-9 bowl record. Not exactly the stamp of pride you want representing your conference. What's even better is that they have a 65-85 record against current SEC teams.
Of course, Pat Forde had this to say on A&M's almost move to the SEC in 2010:
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Texas A&M. Your program hasn't won a bowl game in nine years and hasn't played in a BCS bowl since 1998. Your record the last five years is 31-31. You have completely abdicated the school's defensive heritage. And yet the Big 12 is willing to cut you in on the same Platinum Member perks afforded Texas and Oklahoma. Don't ask questions, just sign on the dotted line.
Pat Forde then said this in 2011:
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COLLEGE STATION, Texas -- These people are not ready for the Southeastern Conference.
Texas A&M's ghastly collapse against Oklahoma State on Saturday was not greeted with shrieks of outrage from the 87,358 fans in Kyle Field. From field level at the final gun, there was no visible rending of garments or gnashing of teeth -- to the contrary, the Aggies fans politely clapped for their players as they jogged to the locker room. I didn't hear a single call to fire the coach, fire the coordinators, fire the athletic director, yank anyone's scholarship or waterboard the officials.
LINK
And yet another ESPN article that gets it right:
quote:LINK
"Little Fish, Strange Pond": At least the Aggies know life will be easier in the SEC, right? Texas A&M's loss to Arkansas dropped its record to 0-7 against SEC foes since 1996.
Now I don't agree with the whole "they should not move" mantra, but I do agree that it is going to take a different mindset for the Aggies to compete. I wish them the best to the extent a Hog fan can. However, the good money is on "we had to suffer through 4 years with a cUSA coach" or "we didn't integrate until 1973" type of excuses that I expect will be coming to a rant near you.
This post was edited on 7/28/12 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 7/28/12 at 12:19 pm to Pigimus Prime
Good post Prime. You know what's really sad though? All these Aggies that don't understand the dynamics of the Sec Rant. The only reason Lsu fans are pumping up A&M is to troll Arkansas posters, that's it. Most of the LSU posters on this site weren't even alive for the A&M rivalry, but want to play the Aggies on Thanksgivig because of tradition.
Even though their game was traditionally played the first week of the season, not the last.
Even though their game was traditionally played the first week of the season, not the last.
Posted on 7/28/12 at 12:26 pm to Stonehog
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Good post Prime. You know what's really sad though? All these Aggies that don't understand the dynamics of the Sec Rant. The only reason Lsu fans are pumping up A&M is to troll Arkansas posters, that's it. Most of the LSU posters on this site weren't even alive for the A&M rivalry, but want to play the Aggies on Thanksgivig because of tradition.
Even though their game was traditionally played the first week of the season, not the last.
You're exactly right.
Posted on 7/28/12 at 1:18 pm to DWag215
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Mike Sherman
What is the A&M deal with him? I know you have to blame the failures on someone but the fact may be that aggy IS the 4th best team in Texas.
I would not expect a pro team to turn their offense over to someone who didn't have some idea of what he was doing.
So now a great offensive mind from one of the top 3 programs in Texas is suppose to come in and take the Texas talent that you have had for 100+ years and turn you into an elite SEC program? Not buying.
Oh and 41-24-3.
Posted on 7/28/12 at 3:30 pm to dawginar
We will make it 4 straight this year vs. the Ags. Bank on it
Posted on 7/28/12 at 4:32 pm to Porky
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Check out our 1968 season. What bowl game did we play that year? Check out LSU and other SEC teams during that time period. They played 4-6 conference games. LSU played 4 OOC SWC games, 3 other OOC games, and 4 SEC games (Miss. State., Ole Miss, Kentucky, and Alabama) All SWC teams played EVERY SWC team every year. Links: Arkansas-1968 LSU-1968 SEC teams were good but not much better overall than teams in the SWC and would many times play one another in bowl games to ensure SEC wins. BTW, Arkansas finished tied for first place with Texas (who lost to Texas Tech and tied Houston their first 2 games) in the SWC in 1968, otherwise we would have played in the Cotton Bowl. You're not well informed. Are you an Arkansas State fan?
Dipshit,your weak argument is getting old. Go from the year Broyles arrived until Arky joined SEC. Please note Arkys non conference schedule. Please post Arky's record against SEC teams during that time.LSU opened up with three easy non conference games prior to SEC, Yes,they usually were Aggies,Rice and Baylor.
Please show me the quality Hog wins or shut up.Any Hog fan want to make a six month ban bet that Hogs record against SEC prior to joining SEC.Hog fans,show me a winning record against any good football program minimum five games in your history. Put up or shut up! I know the Hog's record! No,Memphis,Tulsa,Okie Lite and Northwestern State do not count.I will let you count Arky State.
This post was edited on 7/28/12 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 7/28/12 at 4:50 pm to Bernie Moore
He mad.
Aggy arrogance is as annoying as it is confusing.
That's the only reason beating A&M is as fun as it is. Otherwise, its really kind of boring.
Aggy arrogance is as annoying as it is confusing.
That's the only reason beating A&M is as fun as it is. Otherwise, its really kind of boring.
Posted on 7/28/12 at 4:52 pm to Bernie Moore
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Please show me the quality Hog wins or shut up.Any Hog fan want to make a six month ban bet that Hogs record against SEC prior to joining SEC.Hog fans,show me a winning record against any good football program minimum five games in your history. Put up or shut up! I know the Hog's record! No,Memphis,Tulsa,Okie Lite and Northwestern State do not count.I will let you count Arky State.
Wow...and BOOM goes the Dynomite!!!!!
Posted on 7/28/12 at 5:52 pm to wmr
He may be mad...BUT he's also 100% accurate...NO denying it pigs !
Posted on 7/28/12 at 5:53 pm to wmr
What school was it in the old SWC that their players spit on the Arky players, after they tackled the Arky player? This happened after Arky made it known that they were leaving the SWC for the SEC. I remember reading about it in The Advocate. Arky fans, you probably remember this happening.
Posted on 7/28/12 at 5:54 pm to Crow Pie
The pigs usually wilt when confronted with FACTS...either that or "well bama beat LSU"
They are one delusional and hilarious herd of swine...LMAO
They are one delusional and hilarious herd of swine...LMAO
Posted on 7/28/12 at 9:54 pm to wmr
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We're just clueless as to why A&M gets such respect from the SEC in general.
Its weird watching Bama and LSU fans talk about A&M like they are Texas, when they are, in reality, more like Mississippi State.
That's what I'm saying. Arkie gets no respect, because you are shitty. That's it. Always have been a shitty school in a shitty state. Always will be.
See how that sounds?
Posted on 7/29/12 at 12:26 am to KaiserSoze99
A&M will peak early and be about the same in the long run.
They'll have more cash and TV time, but it will equal out since they will play tougher teams.
Unless A&M gets serious about football, cuts back academic spending, squeezes money out of alumni, and cuts out the gay shite, they won't become a real power.
I just don't get all the shite talk from aggies about arkansas. You need to beat the hogs before you start talking shite. Don't bring up recruiting rankings aggies, Arkansas is known for paying players and conditioning 3*s into 5*s.
If only Veltkamp (S&C coach) devoted his time to curing cancer or diseases...He better not leave next year.
They'll have more cash and TV time, but it will equal out since they will play tougher teams.
Unless A&M gets serious about football, cuts back academic spending, squeezes money out of alumni, and cuts out the gay shite, they won't become a real power.
I just don't get all the shite talk from aggies about arkansas. You need to beat the hogs before you start talking shite. Don't bring up recruiting rankings aggies, Arkansas is known for paying players and conditioning 3*s into 5*s.
If only Veltkamp (S&C coach) devoted his time to curing cancer or diseases...He better not leave next year.
This post was edited on 7/29/12 at 12:32 am
Posted on 7/29/12 at 1:00 am to Stonehog
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Most of the LSU posters on this site weren't even alive for the A&M rivalry, but want to play the Aggies on Thanksgivig because of tradition.
I was, and they were a more natural rivalry. it didn't feel forced down our throat. It will be so again
Posted on 7/29/12 at 5:54 am to cardboardboxer
The real losers in the A&M to SEC move are all the non-SEC teams not named Texas that depend on Texas talent to compete.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Finally, a statement amidst all this bitch squabbling that has merit. If you don't think aTm coming to the SEC just dealt the Sooners and Okie Lite a tremendous blow, you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Kids that don't end up in Austin that normally would have been by default Sooner pick-ups are much more likely to stay in Texas and play in the SEC. Better brand, more visibility, better competition.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Finally, a statement amidst all this bitch squabbling that has merit. If you don't think aTm coming to the SEC just dealt the Sooners and Okie Lite a tremendous blow, you're not seeing the forest for the trees. Kids that don't end up in Austin that normally would have been by default Sooner pick-ups are much more likely to stay in Texas and play in the SEC. Better brand, more visibility, better competition.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:27 am to Stonehog
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The only reason Lsu fans are pumping up A&M is to troll Arkansas posters
This is entirely false. The reason we say they could be on the upswing is because of their recruiting and the prospects of it becoming much better. Maybe you should take a look at their recruiting this year since they have joined the SEC. I expect they will put together several top 10 classes, and will be a force to be reckoned with in the SEC within 2-3 years. Your jealousy or hatred or whatever it is you have for them keeps you from seeing the truth and being objective. You will understand in a few years. Right now, you are just trying to make it to your sophomore year in college i'm sure.
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:38 am to VC
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will be a force to be reckoned with in the SEC within 2-3 years
Posted on 7/29/12 at 8:54 am to DWag215
quote:No need to. The poster was throwing recruiting rankings 6 months before Signing Day around. If the Aggs are still #6 and we are #50 on Feb. 7, 2013 I'll be a hell of a lot more concerned than I am right now.
Read that one more time, bro
Hell anything can happen between now and then. Just remember yall couldn't get Eric Dickerson to College Station even after yall bought him a gold Trans "A&M".
This post was edited on 7/29/12 at 8:57 am
Posted on 7/29/12 at 9:00 am to Notherdamnhog
aTm could become viable in the SEC, but it will take a few years.
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