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re: Are we sure LSU controls their destiny?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:54 am to diddlydawg7
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:54 am to diddlydawg7
All the committee would really consider (in your scenario) is the fact that both LSU and Oregon would have played UGA and that LSU beat them, while Oregon got blasted 49-3.
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:55 am to diddlydawg7
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I can guarantee you 12-1 Georgia gets in over 12-1 Oregon or 11-1 Tennessee considering the head to head
Well you simply cannot put UGA in and leave LSU out if LSU beats them in Atlanta
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:56 am to SG_Geaux
They did it to penn state. They absolutely CAN. Not sure they will though.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 10:57 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:56 am to SG_Geaux
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Well you simply cannot put UGA in and leave LSU out if LSU beats them in Atlanta
Well yeah you simply can. The committee did the equivalent with Ohio St and Penn St in ‘16
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:58 am to Sleepy_Tiger
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Who knows, But LSU has already achieved way more than I was even thinking this year. Right now we are playing on the house money and if we were to by the grace of God beat Georgia, it would be funnier than hell throw a monkey wrench into the whole college playoff.
Absolutely.
Making the playoffs would be incredible, but I’m already happy with what this team has been able to accomplish this year. Winning the west was a pipe dream imo to start the season.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:59 am to diddlydawg7
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TCU (13-0)
is losing to texas
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:03 am to justaniceguy
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They did it to penn state. They absolutely CAN. Not sure they will though.
I think the only difference would be that LSU would beat them the week prior, while Ohio St lost pretty early in the season IIRC. How much that matters to the committee is the question.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 11:04 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:04 am to diddlydawg7
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...i think it’s tough to say with zero doubt that LSU controls their destiny at this point
I think you're trying too hard.
Most people I know would say that it's in LSU's hands to go as far as they can under their own power; which means winning the rest of their regular season games, going to Atlanta and beating Georgia to take the SEC crown.
After that it's NOT in LSU's hands, and it never was. Even if they'd gone undefeated and took the SEC, they still wouldn't be able to control whether or not they get a berth in the CFP.
Sure, you could reasonably expect that an undefeated SEC champ would get in, but guarantee it? Nope - not while humans still vote on who gets invited.
All any team can do is put themselves in a position where they're eligible to be selected....
...and, in that sense, LSU definitely controls their own destiny.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:09 am to justaniceguy
No because if that happened Bama would be going instead of LSU. 3 losses puts them out and OleMiss/Bama would be 2 losses and Bama would have the Head 2 Head.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:11 am to Dotarian
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.i think it’s tough to say with zero doubt that LSU controls their destiny at this point
I think you're trying too hard.
It was someone else you responded to, but I don't see why he's trying too hard. He said you can't say "with zero doubt" and that is true. If you have the champions of the Big 10, Pac, and Big 12 as in (in this scenario), why would a 2 loss SEC champ be a lock over a 1 loss ACC champ ?
Personally, I'm sure LSu would demolish either clemson or UNC, but the committee has shown us year after year that losses matter. They very well make it over a team wiht a better record but it's not a lock.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:12 am to diddlydawg7
Yes
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:16 am to diddlydawg7
Too many hypotheticals in this argument. TCU winning out is a stretch, Oregon still has tough games to play, and you are just assuming OSU beats Michigan when Michigan is way more complete IMO. No point in trying to predict all of this shite when there are too many moving parts.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:18 am to diddlydawg7
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Win over #1 Georgia (9-0)
That would be the final decision maker right there.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:27 am to diddlydawg7
Here’s your daily LSU thread. You should do a podcast
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:27 am to WG_Dawg
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He said you can't say "with zero doubt" and that is true.
The only point I was making was what "controlling your own destiny" means.
My opinion: the only "destiny" any team can control is winning every game in front of them, and winning their conference.
After that, whether or not they make it into the CFP is NOT in their control (not unless you're Bama and just assume that it's your "destiny" to get to the CFP every year - I'm not that arrogant).
If you're betting on the weather, the only "destiny" you can control is whether or not you get wet when it rains - you can't control the rain, only your preparedness and response when it happens.
Silly example, but it's adequate: the only destiny any team can control is their effort and their record. And to that end, LSU most assuredly controls their destiny.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:29 am to Endorphins
One of LSUs loses was out of conference to FSU. Lsu only has 1 conference loss right now. Another one and they would still be above Alabama because they beat Alabama h2h
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 11:30 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:30 am to justaniceguy
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And Georgia blew out tennessee who blew out lsu. Should they get in over LSU even if they lose in the SECCG?
Tenn or Georgia?
if UGA is 12-0 and loses sec champ game they are in no matter what.
If LSU wins and finishes 11-2 while UT is 11-1 there can be arguments about either getting in.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:33 am to diddlydawg7
No one has a more impressive resume than UT as a 1 lose team. If UT goes 11-1 they would get in. UT is 3-1 against teams in the CFP top 25 and 2-1 against the Top 10. And let me remind you, one of them wins only happens 4 weeks and on the road against the #7 team in the country.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:33 am to diddlydawg7
IMO.. the answer to this question is somewhat found in the way this all plays out..
If LSU beats Georgia in the Championship game in a dominating performance and Georgia is not missing any key players then yeah I think LSU gets the nod...
However, if LSU squeaks by a win on a questionable call or several key starters for Georgia are out with the flu then LSU's chances are greatly diminished..
If LSU beats Georgia in the Championship game in a dominating performance and Georgia is not missing any key players then yeah I think LSU gets the nod...
However, if LSU squeaks by a win on a questionable call or several key starters for Georgia are out with the flu then LSU's chances are greatly diminished..
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:34 am to WG_Dawg
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Tennessee, absolutley. no brainer. Oregon, not so sure. One team would be a 1 loss P5 conference hcamp and the other would be a 1-loss non-champ. I'm not saying we WOULD be left out, I don't really have a definitive opinion on the situation right now. I'm just saying it is most certainly NOT a slam dunk guarantee either. As mentioend a hundred times, the only reason we made the playoffs last year in a similar scenario is because the other team we compted wiht for the final slot was a 2-loss champ. If OkSt wins the big 12 with 1 loss I still believe we miss out last year.
If Oregon got in over a 12-1 UGA I will root on UGA’s behalf. I know it was early but it was a 42 point win.
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