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re: Are UGA, LSU, and Bama the only SEC schools to win a real natty in football?
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:35 am to Smokeyone
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:35 am to Smokeyone
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From your link:
As my link showed a student with a c average and a 17 on the ACT isn’t getting into UGA, which is what you stated. To be fair that student is t getting into UT either. As your stats show UT is easier to get into than UGA. My son was accepted to UT, but denied UGA. He had a 1210 SAT, 3.8 GPA and 5 AP course credits (4 or higher on tests). Both are fine schools, some programs are better at one or the other.
In the end my son chose GCSU because he was admitted and can use HOPE there.
I don’t expect you to admit you were wrong before, you never do and seem to lack the moral fiber to do so.
Btw you are interpreting this part wrong: “ So they weighted and recalculated grades and scores. If you made a B in an AP class it became an A (one full grade point higher. So an 80 became a 90, an 85 became a 95?”
I believe UGA does the same thing the Hope does. They remove the weighting applied by HS to AP courses (so a 3 in HS in AP gets bumped to an 4 by the HS UGA removes this) they then add back a .5 to it. This is how “Hope GPA” is done in Georgia for AP classes.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 11:39 am
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Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:36 am to Dawgfanman
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As my link showed a student with a c average and a 17 on the ACT isn’t getting into UGA
Because UGA turns it into a B average and a 27 ACT…. If they took a couple college prep classes.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:41 am to Smokeyone
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Because UGA turns it into a B average and a 27 ACT…. If they took a couple college prep classes.
You really are dumb. UGA doesn’t adjust ACT scores at all for admission consideration and they actually lower the GPA from what most kids see on their HS transcript. Most HS transcripts included weighted GPAs, non academic classes etc. UGA adjusts the weighted (downward) and doesn’t consider the non academic classes at all. Getting into UGA is extremely difficult in 2022. And AP courses and dual enrollement aren’t “college prep courses” one is a college equivalent (AP) of student does well enough to the standardized test, the other is a course actually taken at a college (dual enrollment). When and if you have children, please look to a counselor at the local school for help in college admissions as you don’t understand anything.
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 11:44 am
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:42 am to Smokeyone
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In the end my son chose GCSU because he was admitted and can use HOPE there.
GCSU or GC&SU or GC as it was known when I enrolled was a better school than UGA in the mid 90s. I went there because of HOPE too in 1994. Better professors, smaller class size, just a better foundation for advanced classes. And in 2 years he can take his associates and go elsewhere.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:46 am to Uga Alum
This thread is bad. It’s inconsistently argued and ripe for critique.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:46 am to Smokeyone
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GCSU or GC&SU or GC as it was known when I enrolled was a better school than UGA in the mid 90s. I went there because of HOPE too in 1994. Better professors, smaller class size, just a better foundation for advanced classes. And in 2 years he can take his associates and go elsewhere
I’m glad he’s going there, but it is easier to get into than UGA. The reasons you stated are why I’m glad he’s going there. Kids all need different things and I don’t think mine would do well at a big school.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:47 am to Dawgfanman
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UGA doesn’t adjust ACT scores at all for admission consideration and they actually lower the GPA from what most kids see on their HS transcript.
Reading comprehension is a lost art…
The link you provided stated that they bump a full grade (in Ga that’s 10 points) for any Dual enrollment, AP, Honors, College Perp, etc type classes and for a rigorous SR year (don’t do like I did and took 2 weightlifting, yearbook, and applied Technology with 1 real class my SR year). And weight ACT/SAT scores to put students in the best light.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:51 am to Smokeyone
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Reading comprehension is a lost art…
Where does the link say they adjust ACT scores (17 to 27 was your example).
Btw UT adjusts GPAs prior to admission consideration (bumping them up for what you called “college prep” courses). Like I said, you lack moral fiber to admit you are wrong. No kid with a C average and a 17 ACT is being admitted to UGA (or UT) unless he’s 6’ 200 LBs and runs at least a 4.5.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:52 am to Dawgfanman
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I’m glad he’s going there, but it is easier to get into than UGA.
It’s easier not because of standards but because fewer people apply. In 1994 when I graduated high school the standards for UGA were significantly lower than GC but since 10s of thousands applied to UGA it was considered an accomplishment to be accepted, whereas a couple thousand applied to GC.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:55 am to Smokeyone
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It’s easier not because of standards but because fewer people apply. In 1994 when I graduated high school the standards for UGA were significantly lower than GC but since 10s of thousands applied to UGA it was considered an accomplishment to be accepted, whereas a couple thousand applied to GC
It’s a good school. GCSU, UGA, GT are the only three schools in the state that required SAT or ACT scores for admission this year. College admissions is changing and not for the better if you ask me. So may “test optional” institutions now
Posted on 7/24/22 at 11:57 am to Dawgfanman
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Btw UT adjusts GPAs prior to admission consideration (bumping them up for what you called “college prep” courses).
They do not give 10 point bumps (whole grade points) and the state uses a far more competitive grading system. (See my example earlier).
The “bump” is 3 points for honors, 4 for dual enrollment, and 5 for “Advanced Placement, Cambridge International, College Level Exam Program (CLEP), and International Baccalaureate Courses”
Google is your friend.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:01 pm to Smokeyone
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The “bump” is 3 points for honors, 4 for dual enrollment, and 5 for “Advanced Placement, Cambridge International, College Level Exam Program (CLEP), and International Baccalaureate Courses” Google is your friend.
UGA doesn’t give a bump for “honors” the reasoning is the same for why they strip off all HS weighting and apply their own, there is no standard for what is considered “honors” at one HS or another. Looks like the goal of both schools adjusting the GPA is the same, to compare “apples to apples” and give credit for HS rigor.
Is the truth your friend? Do you think all it takes to get into UGA is a c and a 17 on the act? Because my sons experience, the freshman admit profile, and the facts say it’s not true. Wouldn’t a good GC Bobcat be able to demonstrate that he learned to be honest while in school? Lol
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:02 pm to Dawgfanman
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It’s a good school. GCSU, UGA, GT are the only three schools in the state that required SAT or ACT scores for admission this year.
It’s a sign of how bad the Ga public schools are getting. If your kids are not in a magnet school they need to be in private school in too much of Ga. The declining schools are a large part of why I sold the homestead in Mcduffie county and moved to Blount county TN. Terrible schools, high violent crime/gang/drugs, and a dying economy forced me to sellout of Georgia and move to a more family friendly area as soon as our adoption was completed.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:04 pm to Smokeyone
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Hence the qualifier “should be”. I get that a Georgia education is suspect but at least put a tiny bit of effort into this.
LOL, UGA is one the best state schools in the country, and has the same admissions stats as UVA and UNC.
Tennessee is a hillbilly school that accepts almost anyone who applies.
In regard to admissions stats, UGA is closer to Harvard than Tennessee is to UGA. GTFOH
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:05 pm to Smokeyone
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It’s a sign of how bad the Ga public schools are getting. If your kids are not in a magnet school they need to be in private school in too much of Ga. The declining schools are a large part of why I sold the homestead in Mcduffie county and moved to Blount county TN. Terrible schools, high violent crime/gang/drugs, and a dying economy forced me to sellout of Georgia and move to a more family friendly area as soon as our adoption was completed.
It’s not just a trend in Georgia. The University of Tennessee was test optional for 2022. (Google is your friend). One might say all it takes is a B average and no ACT to get into UTK.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:08 pm to Dawgfanman
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UGA doesn’t give a bump for “honors”
“CP, Honors, Advanced, AP, IB, DE, etc.”
So college prep, honors, AP, Dual enrollment, IB(?) all get weighted 1 full grade. This was covered and established already. At least UT classifies the 3-5 point bump based on reality of the course work.
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:10 pm to Dawgfanman
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It’s not just a trend in Georgia. The University of Tennessee was test optional for 2022.
Expectations to be admitted to UT
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:11 pm to Smokeyone
Here’s some objective data for you, Tennessee rube.
UGA Class of 2026:
Average ACT: 31-34
Average SAT: 1350-1490
Average GPA: 4.0 - 4.26
Tennessee Class of 2026:
Average ACT: 25-31
Average SAT: 1140 - 1303
Average GPA: 3.9
Tennessee has a 78% acceptance rate - your school is a fricking JOKE. It’s harder to be rejected than accepted. Not even competitive Tennessee kids, apparently, want to attend.
Tennessee isn’t even ranked in the top 100. Your peer schools are Arkansas and Kentucky. UGA has the same admissions stats as UNC, UVA, UF, Texas, etc.
In other words, a kid who would be in the top percentage of applicants at Tennessee would likely be rejected from UGA, according to the factual admissions data.
78% - you dumb frick!
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UGA Class of 2026:
Average ACT: 31-34
Average SAT: 1350-1490
Average GPA: 4.0 - 4.26
Tennessee Class of 2026:
Average ACT: 25-31
Average SAT: 1140 - 1303
Average GPA: 3.9
Tennessee has a 78% acceptance rate - your school is a fricking JOKE. It’s harder to be rejected than accepted. Not even competitive Tennessee kids, apparently, want to attend.
Tennessee isn’t even ranked in the top 100. Your peer schools are Arkansas and Kentucky. UGA has the same admissions stats as UNC, UVA, UF, Texas, etc.
In other words, a kid who would be in the top percentage of applicants at Tennessee would likely be rejected from UGA, according to the factual admissions data.
78% - you dumb frick!
Sources:
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LINK
This post was edited on 7/24/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:17 pm to Smokeyone
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Terrible schools, high violent crime/gang/drugs, and a dying economy forced me to sellout of Georgia and move to a more family friendly area as soon as our adoption was completed.
It sounds like you’re too poor to live in a decent neighborhood. Makes sense - with a 78% acceptance rate, your degree mill doesn’t produce particularly competitive graduates. In a state populated by UGA, GT, and Emory grads, it’s no wonder you were confined to a shite hole. Glad you moved back to the hills, where you can beat out Tennessee Tech grads for a livable wage. Poor frick
Posted on 7/24/22 at 12:22 pm to Smokeyone
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quote: It’s not just a trend in Georgia. The University of Tennessee was test optional for 2022. Expectations to be admitted to UT
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Optional Standardized test scores (for students applying for Fall 2022, Spring 2023 admission) Recommendation letters (academic, professional, or personal) Supporting statement
UTK admissions
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