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re: Are people overrating JT Daniels?

Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:51 pm to
I think he'll be good at UGA, but he lit up a bunch of covid depleted and bad secondaries.
Posted by Mulkey Man
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:52 pm to
The level of misstatements of fact in this thread on both sides is hilarious.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:52 pm to
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Check again….


Does it really matter at this point? The point is he's much more of a gunslinger than Fromm ever was, which was one of OP's main points, which is now clearly debunked by the facts.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:53 pm to
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The level of misstatements of fact in this thread on both sides is hilarious.


At least I had the decency to fact check myself and make edits instead of just doing the drive-by bullshite so popular here.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
68134 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:53 pm to
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Wow! Looks like Myles was as good as JT in every category! Except all of them!


Nice cherry picking, Diddler.

JT Daniels (4 games)


67.2%
1,231 yards
10 touchdowns
2 interceptions

Myles Brennan (3 games)

60.3%
1,112 yards
11 touchdowns
3 interceptions

LSU receivers led the country in drops at around 9% of drops per targets during Myles' first three games.

Both played Mizzou and Mississippi State.

Brennan had Vandy and Daniels had South Carolina.

The opponents defense metric is skewed in favor of Daniels because of Cincinnati not playing any P5 teams.

Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46184 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:56 pm to
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Can Georgia join the pass-happy SEC and not kill their conservative head coach in the process?


I think this is really going to be the deciding factor. Will Kirby let it ride in a big game or will he tighten things up and go back to what he is comfortable with? That obviously remains to be seen. They opened it up more the last few games of last season than they ever have under Kirby, but they played the dregs of the conference and Cincinnati in those games. If he doesn't pump the brakes they may finally put the 1980 jokes to bed. If he does they probably won't win shite.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:56 pm to
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I think he'll be good at UGA, but he lit up a bunch of covid depleted and bad secondaries.


Here we go again. Against Georgia, Mississippi State started 3/5 starters in the secondary and the two backups who started played in every game this year. And zero walk-ons played a snap in that game.

Missouri was a slightly below average secondary. He had a near perfect game against them.

We didn’t pass against USCjr because we were averaging like 20 YPC against them.

Cincinnati had a good secondary and he had a good, not great game against him.
Posted by DawgsCanes
Member since Jul 2021
53 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:56 pm to
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Nice cherry picking, Diddler.

JT Daniels (4 games)


67.2%
1,231 yards
10 touchdowns
2 interceptions

Myles Brennan (3 games)

60.3%
1,112 yards
11 touchdowns
3 interceptions

LSU receivers led the country in drops at around 9% of drops per targets during Myles' first three games.


LOL
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:58 pm to
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Daniels has had 4 games over 300 yards in 4 starts.


Well, two games in four starts. I like him though, should be one of the best in the conference.
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:01 pm to
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I don’t think he is this savior UGA fans think he is. I think he will be about the same as Fromm was tbh.


I couldn't agree with you more. As I don't think he is the great white hope that the delusional UGA fans perceive him as being.

As when I watch him on film, I see a lot of chinks in his armor. Like, for instance, he is not a mobile QB at all and when he is pressured, his mechanics fall apart and when that happens, he not only becomes very inaccurate but also very prone to throwing interceptions at the same time.

Furthermore, his long ball also sucks.

He may have looked good to the delusional UGA fans when they played second-rate competition. However, when they play upper echelon teams who will be able to pressure the QB, he is going to fall apart and become very mediocre the same way Jake Fromm always did.

I don't think that guy is capable of leading UGA to an SEC Championship, let alone a Natty.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:04 pm to
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Nice cherry picking, Diddler.


Sounds like you have no clue why the yards per attempt stat exists. What’s better? 500 yards on 60 attempts or 400 yards on 20 attempts?

You can always tell someone’s a casual when they post total stats rather than the proper ratio stat.

quote:

LSU receivers led the country in drops at around 9% of drops per targets during Myles' first three games.


Maybe he should throw more catchable balls

quote:

Both played Mizzou and Mississippi State.

Brennan had Vandy and Daniels had South Carolina.

The opponents defense metric is skewed in favor of Daniels because of Cincinnati not playing any P5 teams.



Obviously, but Cincinnati’s defense is still better than the other 3.

But since I know you’ll whine about it, let’s throw it out.

AVG defense rank (excluding Cincy):
Brennan: 79.7
Daniels: 78

So, yes, even if you throw out Cincy, and use the correct statistics (there’s a reason every major QB rating system uses YPA), Daniels was considerably better against slightly better competition
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:05 pm to
Daniels was just so so as a freshman at USC as well. He has potential though and is easily UGA's best option
Posted by DawgsCanes
Member since Jul 2021
53 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:06 pm to
Well said
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
29643 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:07 pm to
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Like, for instance, he is not a mobile QB at all and when he is pressured, his mechanics fall apart and when that happens, he not only becomes very inaccurate but also very prone to throwing interceptions at the same time.


A. His knee was hurt. Try watching his high school/USCfilm. He was/is a very good scrambler.

B.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:08 pm to
Daniels natural physical abilities and arm talent are much better than Fromm's.
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:09 pm to
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I don’t think he is this savior UGA fans think he is. I think he will be about the same as Fromm was tbh.


Sure he did, but only against second-rate competition. Meanwhile, when I study him on film he is not in the least mobile, a lot like Jake Fromm, and when under pressure his mechanics fall apart, just like Jake Fromm, and then when that happens he becomes very inaccurate and susceptible to throwing interceptions, just like Jake Fromm.

Not to mention that his long balls also suck as well.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40538 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:11 pm to
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Nice cherry picking, Diddler.


And you follow it up with your own “nice cherry picking”? Predictable
Posted by DawgsCanes
Member since Jul 2021
53 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:12 pm to
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when I study him on film he is not in the least mobile, a lot like Jake Fromm, and when under pressure his mechanics fall apart, just like Jake Fromm, and then when that happens he becomes very inaccurate and susceptible to throwing interceptions, just like Jake Fromm.


You are watching the wrong film
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:14 pm to
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Wow! Looks like Myles was as good as JT in every category! Except all of them!


Yeah, it was very foolish to try to compare him to Brennan. As Brennan will not even be the starter for LSU when the season begins. As that will be Max Johnson.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40538 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:14 pm to
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very prone to throwing interceptions at the same time.


Same post again? Yea, all 2 of the INT’s
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