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re: Anyone of you baws interested in Civil War geneology?

Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3000 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:14 pm to
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The gravemarks in this area are fading into the Earth, and I think that you owe these "people" a bit of gratitude.


For betraying their country?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 5:49 pm to
Go frick yourself, a-hole. These men fought for the Liberty that the Constitution is supposed to enshrine.
Posted by Sobaka94
Tampa
Member since Jul 2017
248 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:00 pm to
no, they went to war to ensure slavery survived.
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
7535 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:07 pm to
Here’s that Civil War thread BTW. LINK
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:15 pm to
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no, they went to war to ensure slavery survived.


No, they went to war to ensure that the federal government couldn’t dictate to the states. Which is why some 150 years later, we expect, and some apparently even enjoy being bent over by the federal government. Are you enjoying that 21 trillion in debt, that your children, and their children will be slaves to? You sure can’t blame those soldiers you want to piss on for it.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 6:22 pm
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:19 pm to
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Gettysburg
Antietam
Vicksburg
Bull Run

all have names on their tombstones.

What will your's say?


You’re being a drama queen and looking to be offended when no one is mocking these soldiers or anything. If people asking questions or offering different ideas on what’s best makes you this mad you may need to grow thicker skin.
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:22 pm to
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No, they went to war to ensure that the federal government couldn’t dictate to the states.


If this is true, why did the confederacy have an amendment that prohibited states from abolishing slavery. Doesn’t sound very states rights to me.

With that said I hold no ill will to the average soldiers that fought for the confederacy. That is just what you did and obviously average joes weren’t fighting for slaveholding rights since only the rich owned them.

The whole war, from the north and the south, was a classic case of “rich man’s war, poor man’s fight”
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22332 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:39 pm to
Frick you.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:54 pm to
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If this is true, why did the confederacy have an amendment that prohibited states from abolishing slavery. Doesn’t sound very states rights to me.


Why wouldn’t they? The US Constitution explicitly says all powers not granted the federal government in that document, are reserved to the states, or to the people. Then the federal government decided to take some of that power, and dictate to the states.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51252 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 6:59 pm to
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No, they went to war to ensure that the federal government couldn’t dictate to the states.


Right. They didn't want the federal government to tell them they couldn't have slaves.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:06 pm to
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Right. They didn't want the federal government to tell them they couldn't have slaves.


Yep. Or set the speed limit at 55 in their state. Or force their state to take foreign refugees. Or tell their state how the schools in their state are to be ran, and what they can teach. I can go on all night.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4440 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:28 pm to
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speed limit at 55 in their state. Or force their state to take foreign refugees. Or tell their state how the schools in their state are to be ran, and what they can teach. I can go on all night.


You’re seriously equating this to enslaving an entire race based on said raise all in the name of states rights?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:38 pm to
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You’re seriously equating this to enslaving an entire race based on said raise all in the name of states rights?


Did I say I was equating them? I’m saying that per the Constitution, the federal government has no power over any of these, and a million other issues that they now dictate to the states as a matter of course. It is explicitly unconstitutional, and the Civil War was the beginning of the end for constitutional restraint of the federal government. Which is why all of us, our children, and our children’s children, are now slaves to the federal government.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 7:51 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 7:53 pm to
I owe the deceased no respect or loyalty whatsoever, they did nothing for me or my ancestors.

Why the hell does LaGrange give a shite now? Let them Rest In Peace undisturbed in their watery graves.
Posted by CSATiger
The Battlefield
Member since Aug 2010
6220 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:46 pm to
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Yes, my ancestor, the Wizard of the Saddle, was tfrickinGOAT!


I would assume then, that you know his remains are soon to be moved
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58857 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 8:57 pm to


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tfrickinGOAT!



If he were living today, and the war just ended, he would be brought up on charges of crimes against humanity had he pulled the shite he did back then today. No question in my mind about that.


Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18201 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:05 pm to
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No, they went to war to ensure that the federal government couldn’t dictate to the states.
The states right to do what?

Oh yah. Profit from slavery.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2307 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:19 pm to
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If he were living today, and the war just ended, he would be brought up on charges of crimes against humanity had he pulled the shite he did back then today. No question in my mind about that.


lol ridiculous. Sherman's march wasn't murdering civilians they were wrecking infrastructure. Russians and Germans did far worse on the eastern front of WW2.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:27 pm to
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The states right to do what?

Oh yah. Profit from slavery.


You guys hang up on Confederate slavery, and ignore the fact that the results of that war birthed a behemoth that has enslaved us all. If the 21 trillion in debt doesn’t tell you that you are in fact a slave, google up unfunded mandates. If you have a brain, you’ll realize we are all Kunta Kinte.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 9:29 pm to
Check this bootlicker out

I’m A pAtRiOt.

Unfortunately people like you have a very limited understanding of such a complicated time, but are always the loudest when speaking about it.

Tell us more about how servitude to ones government is patriotic.
This post was edited on 1/25/20 at 9:31 pm
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