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re: Another thread on this shite. 6 Teams - 4 spots.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:00 pm to HottyToddy7
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:00 pm to HottyToddy7
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Who you beat is more important than who you lose too.
Well then why would Bama get in over UT if UT has the head to head?
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Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:01 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Well then why would Bama get in over UT if UT has the head to head?
UGA/ SC/ LSU is better group of wins than UTs.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:03 pm to VFL1800FPD
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By the end of the season, UT SOS will likely be higher than OM
I'm almost positive that the current SOS UT is in the 70. The 12 game SOS is the one that is 35.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:03 pm to HottyToddy7
Texas fixin to find that out!
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:04 pm to HottyToddy7
The group of wins that UT has includes the team that has beaten UGA/LSU/SC
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:05 pm to VFL1800FPD
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By the end of the season, UT SOS will likely be higher than OM
If we are both 10-2 we have 4 common opponents.
Arkansas:
37 point discrepancy favoring Ole Miss
UGA:
18 point discrepancy + whatever Tennessee loses by.
Kentucky:
13 point discrepancy favoring Tennessee
Florida:
6 point discrepancy - whatever ole miss beats Florida by.
4 common opponents and ole miss wins 3 out of the 4 matchups.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:06 pm to HottyToddy7
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That Arkansas loss is soooo much better.
Arkansas was healthy when we beat the Vols vs you guys running up the score on a team with banged up qb and no stud running back.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:07 pm to ManBearSharkReb
None of this matters because you’re getting popped by Pavia in Nashville.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:07 pm to ManBearSharkReb
Sure…
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:25 pm to MtVernon
For UGA it's simply a "win and you're in" game against Tennessee. They're unlikely to lose to Umass or GT, so if they beat Tennessee they'll finish 10-2. They also likely won't make the SECCG, so they'd be in with that record due to their schedule including teams currently ranked #3 (win on road), #6 (would need to be a home win), #9 (loss on road), #10 (loss on road) and #17 (neutral site win)
Not sure I agree that it's just 4 SEC teams getting inthough.
Right now if higher ranked teams win it would be 4 from the SEC. But if UGA beats Tennessee I think it will be 5.
I think Indiana will lose to OSU by a LOT. Liike 40-50 points. And despite that being their only loss I think they will drop below UGA/Ole Miss and even below wherever Tennessee lands if they were to lose to UGA.
That would mean:
OSU/Oregon/PSU from the Big 10.
Texas/Bama/Ole Miss/UGA/Tennessee from the SEC.
ACC winner
Big 12 winner
ND
G5 team.
If indiana were to remain in the top 10, it might end up being Ole Miss who gets left out, even though they beat UGA.
As I said above, UGA's schedule is by far the toughest of all the 2-loss teams. Ole Miss beat UGA head to head, but I wouldn't be shocked if UGA was still ranked ahead of Ole Miss in the playoff ranking due to SOS. And UGA's will get better while Ole Miss's will not.
Not sure I agree that it's just 4 SEC teams getting inthough.
Right now if higher ranked teams win it would be 4 from the SEC. But if UGA beats Tennessee I think it will be 5.
I think Indiana will lose to OSU by a LOT. Liike 40-50 points. And despite that being their only loss I think they will drop below UGA/Ole Miss and even below wherever Tennessee lands if they were to lose to UGA.
That would mean:
OSU/Oregon/PSU from the Big 10.
Texas/Bama/Ole Miss/UGA/Tennessee from the SEC.
ACC winner
Big 12 winner
ND
G5 team.
If indiana were to remain in the top 10, it might end up being Ole Miss who gets left out, even though they beat UGA.
As I said above, UGA's schedule is by far the toughest of all the 2-loss teams. Ole Miss beat UGA head to head, but I wouldn't be shocked if UGA was still ranked ahead of Ole Miss in the playoff ranking due to SOS. And UGA's will get better while Ole Miss's will not.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:29 pm to VFL1800FPD
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Well then why would Bama get in over UT if UT has the head to head?
They're the highest 2-loss team in the AP poll and were the highest 2-loss team in the playoff ranking last week. Not sure why you think they won't be the highest 2-loss team if Tennessee loses a second game.
They want Bama in the playoff. That's why they'll be ahead of Tennessee.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:37 pm to DawginSC
I don’t disagree, I just think it’s retarded that head to head doesn’t matter in this scenario. I think if you are comparing resumes of 2 2-loss teams from the same conference, and one of them beat the other, that should be that.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:38 pm to MtVernon
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1) Georgia - the loss to Ole Miss killed them. But if that ain't enough, I'm calling Tenner to beat Georgia.
In the grand scheme of things, losing to Ole Miss might end up being best case scenario UGA could do in terms of playoff. The way they’re playing I doubt they want to risk a humiliating loss in SEC championship and knocking them out of a home game 1st round seed.
If they beat Tennessee, they will win out and finish 10-2. They are absolutely in with the #1 SOS.
At worst case scenario they’ll have 3 ranked wins against Clemson, Texas, and Tennesse.
At best case, they’ll have 3 ranked wins against the ACC champ top 4 seed Clemson, SEC champ top 4 seed Texas, and top 15 Tennessee.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:47 pm to VFL1800FPD
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What’s the point of playing head to head if it’s irrelevant.
It's part of the schedule just like any other game.
A road loss by 7 doesn't mean Bama is worse than Tennessee overall. They were that day playing on the road, but play the game in Tuscaloosa and that might not have been the result.
If UT loses to UGA they'll have losses to 10-2 UGA and a 7-5 or 6-6 Arkansas. Bama will have losses to 10-2 Tennessee and 7-5 or 6-6 Vandy.
Tennessee's only win of note will be over 10-2 Bama. Bama would have wins over 10-2 UGA, a 10-2 to 8-4 Mizzou and a 9-3 to 8-4 LSU.
And you can't rank those 3 (UGA, Tennessee, Bama) based on head to head... because in that scenario UGA would beat Tennessee, UT beat Bama and Bama beat UGA with the home team winning each one. Someone has to be last in that ranking. It will probably be Tennessee due to having the weakest strength of schedule among the 3.
TLDR... beat UGA. That way it won't matter.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:51 pm to HottyToddy7
Arkansas loss not nearly as bad as a home loss to UK. It won't matter when the gators spank punk arse Kiffin in a couple weeks!
Posted on 11/12/24 at 6:51 pm to DawginSC
I understand the concept, I just think it’s BS.
This post was edited on 11/12/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 11/12/24 at 7:02 pm to VFL1800FPD
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I understand the concept, I just think it’s BS.
Why?
If UGA is 10-2 with a win over UT and UT is 10-2 with a win over Bama and Bama is 10-2 with a win over UGA, how does head to head tell you how to rank those 3 teams?
Posted on 11/12/24 at 7:05 pm to ukraine_rebel
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It’s the loser of the Tex/A&M and UGA/UT games.
Barring any unexpected losses - this is it.
So Sat. night somebody drops from playoff contention. I love it.
But shite, Texas could lose to Arky and be out too.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 7:11 pm to ukraine_rebel
Im not sure UT gets left out if they lose to UGA. Their Bama win is looking better and better. If Indiana gets boat raced by OSU or if PSU loses to Minnesota the SEC likely sends 5 teams instead of 4
Loser of Texas/TAMU is 100% out
Loser of Texas/TAMU is 100% out
Posted on 11/12/24 at 7:17 pm to HottyToddy7
TX will get left out for sure if they lose a game an get stuck in the 2 loss "beauty contest" with the rest of us. SOS and good wins will have them outside of the top 12 for sure...especially if they lose to Aggies...they will officially have only beaten average to below average teams
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