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re: Analogy - Why 4 & 5-wide Spread Offenses slaughter good Defenses
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:49 am to IAmNERD
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:49 am to IAmNERD
Not to mention June Jones was doing this at Hawaii, not Alabama, LSU, or Florida.
The level of athletes is just so much better at the schools running it. As soon as the old school, meat head coach was relaxed we started seeing offenses utilizing their advantages.
The level of athletes is just so much better at the schools running it. As soon as the old school, meat head coach was relaxed we started seeing offenses utilizing their advantages.
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:51 am to Buckeye Jeaux
I imagine allowing offensive linemen to be three yards downfield on a pass play has something to do with it also. In the NFL it's only one yard
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:53 am to paperwasp
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There are many more capable, talented QBs available right now than there ever have been.
So many that even LSU got one
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:57 am to OverseasBengal
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I imagine allowing offensive linemen to be three yards downfield on a pass play has something to do with it also. In the NFL it's only one yard
The 3-yard rule is a huge advantage in running the RPO.
If there is any rule change affecting the Spread/RPO's it will be this one.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:58 am to Buckeye Jeaux
You should coach football mate
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:59 am to UTprideofTX
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You should coach football mate
I have, mate.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:04 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Miss State did a beautiful job spreading out the interceptions.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:04 pm to TearsofKnowshon
It's more about the fear defenders have of playing aggressively because the rules completely benefit the offense more than anything else.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:06 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
We should've hired you, you'd have probably made Joe Brady look like a rube.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:07 pm to OverseasBengal
I wish they would change that rule.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:17 pm to LouisvilleKat
quote:They don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's yet. Leach will get it squared away in a year or so.
Miss State did a beautiful job spreading out the interceptions.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
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We should've hired you, you'd have probably made Joe Brady look like a rube.
He pushed through the 10,000 jugs catches. Smart guy.
Maybe it was COVID, but there is no way Linehan got that done this Summer. Same WR's, but dropping balls like hot potatoes.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:41 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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College defenses aren't worse, they just have 3 times as much area to cover.
No. The field is the same size it's been for 100 years.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:43 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Maybe it was COVID, but there is no way Linehan got that done this Summer.
I doubt it.
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Same WR's
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:47 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
1. QB as athletes that are as good at running as they are at passing. You used to choose between a passer or a runner, now they have morphed into what it takes to do both really well.
2. College rules allow OL 3 yards downfield instead of 1. Ages ago I was a player and then a coach. An axiomatic read by secondary players and occasionally LBs was uncovered OL and how he blocked. If his outside leg crossed over and he got to the second level, it was run all the way. Safeties would attack their run fits like an LB, mostly alley support. Corners playing zone schemes with outside leverage could do the same reads with edge support. LBs could attack their run fit reading the cap on the aligned OL.
The RPO game blows that apart. OL block the same way on run and pass, they don’t even know what it is because it’s a read. If Colkege went to the NFL rules on OL down field, the offense would be slowed considerably. As it is, LBs and safeties are the ones getting abused because their rules are often conflicting.
3. Matchups. OCs are designing their offenses to get matchups that are a mismatch. They have always done this to an extent, but these OCs are playing 4D chess a lot of the time. It’s almost unreal how fast they can spot and create a mismatch on the field.
2. College rules allow OL 3 yards downfield instead of 1. Ages ago I was a player and then a coach. An axiomatic read by secondary players and occasionally LBs was uncovered OL and how he blocked. If his outside leg crossed over and he got to the second level, it was run all the way. Safeties would attack their run fits like an LB, mostly alley support. Corners playing zone schemes with outside leverage could do the same reads with edge support. LBs could attack their run fit reading the cap on the aligned OL.
The RPO game blows that apart. OL block the same way on run and pass, they don’t even know what it is because it’s a read. If Colkege went to the NFL rules on OL down field, the offense would be slowed considerably. As it is, LBs and safeties are the ones getting abused because their rules are often conflicting.
3. Matchups. OCs are designing their offenses to get matchups that are a mismatch. They have always done this to an extent, but these OCs are playing 4D chess a lot of the time. It’s almost unreal how fast they can spot and create a mismatch on the field.
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 10/20/20 at 12:55 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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They don't have the Jimmy's and Joe's yet. Leach will get it squared away in a year or so.
No he won’t. Leach hates recruiting
Posted on 10/20/20 at 1:21 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Have you ever heard of nickel and dime defensive packages? 
What would happen if you tripled the width of soccer goals, but added 3 more goalies?
What would happen if you tripled the width of soccer goals, but added 3 more goalies?
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:17 pm to Lonnie Utah
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No. The field is the same size it's been for 100 years.
The formations aren't the same. For a DB, 5-wide puts your assisting DB 5 or 10 yards further away than in traditional sets.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:23 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Geometry of the field hasn’t changed.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 3:23 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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