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re: Analogy - Why 4 & 5-wide Spread Offenses slaughter good Defenses
Posted on 10/21/20 at 6:17 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 10/21/20 at 6:17 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 6:21 am to OverseasBengal
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Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:19 am to Capstone2017
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You also have to account for how much faster and stronger the D-lineman in the NFL are.
Almost everybody is faster and stronger in the NFL, you fricking moron.
And where is your link to college QBs getting 4 seconds for reads, LOL
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 8:22 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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soccer
We were taking about a sport men play; not soccer
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:36 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Make soccer goals three times as wide as they are now. Watch the average scores skyrocket.
Make golf holes three times as wide as they are now. Watch the birdies skyrocket.
Make basketball goals three times as wide as they are now. Watch the 3's skyrocket.
Make baseball home plates three times as wide as they are now. Watch strikeouts skyrocket.
Or Make baseball bats three times as wide as they are now. Watch hits and homeruns skyrocket
Make billiard table pockets three times as wide as they are now. Watch players who run the table skyrocket.
Make basketballs three times as wide as they are now. Watch......nevermind.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 8:43 am to Tidemeister
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Make golf holes three times as wide as they are now. Watch the birdies skyrocket.
Make basketball goals three times as wide as they are now. Watch the 3's skyrocket.
Make baseball home plates three times as wide as they are now. Watch strikeouts skyrocket.
Exactly.
And spread out 4 and 5 eligible receivers across a football field, and throw to the open zones, and you get good Spread teams averaging 40-plus points a game... against defenses like Georgia and Alabama.
And throw in the RPO to force D's to protect the run threat in 4-wide situations
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 8:46 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:10 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Your "analogy" is common knowledge, much like the LSU receiver situation.
Why are you ignorant about one and just now finding out about the other?
Why are you ignorant about one and just now finding out about the other?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:12 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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No. The field is the same size it's been for 100 years.
The formations aren't the same. For a DB, 5-wide puts your assisting DB 5 or 10 yards further away than in traditional sets.
I said nothing about formations. The FIELD is the same size.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:18 am to SidewalkTiger
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Your "analogy" is common knowledge, much like the LSU receiver situation.
No, Slick. It is not common knowledge. That's why there are 100 posts a day saying the defenses suck.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:34 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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No, Slick. It is not common knowledge. That's why there are 100 posts a day saying the defenses suck.
They do.
Alabama, LSU, and Florida's defenses being in the bottom half of the SEC in passing yards allowed isnt a thing because "muh the field is bigger."
Its true that spread offenses have made low scoring games mostly a thing of the past but the three teams I've mentioned are really, really bad on defense compared to the rest of the conference despite having tons of talent on paper.
Do you not understand this?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:45 am to SidewalkTiger
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They do.
No Grasshopper, those defenses don't suck. The game has changed because the Spread/RPO creates huge gaps that competent passing games can easily exploit.
And why did you leave Georgia off your list. Wasn't that supposed to be a great D? Bama hung 41 on them and took a knee at the end. And played kill-the-clock in the 4th qtr. Could have hung 50 or 60 on them.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 9:46 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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No Grasshopper, those defenses don't suck. The game has changed because the Spread/RPO creates huge gaps that competent passing games can easily exploit.
Why are LSU, Alabama, and Florida being disproportionately effected despite having better talent then?
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 9:47 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:27 am to SidewalkTiger
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Why are LSU, Alabama, and Florida being disproportionately effected
Georgia got their share of an arse/whoopin by a good Spread/RPO.
The days of holding SEC teams to 9, 10, 11 points are OVER... if they have elite athletes running a well-coached Spread/RPO.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:40 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Kentucky held the unstoppable air raid to 0 points. Uga let Auburn score 0 touchdowns. Having an rpo or pass heavy offense doesn't make you unstoppable. Did you start watching football in 2019? There have been about 20 new "evolved" offenses since the dawn of time. Every time there is a way to counter it and this formation is no different.
This post was edited on 10/21/20 at 10:49 am
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:47 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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The days of holding SEC teams to 9, 10, 11 points are OVER... if they have elite athletes running a well-coached Spread/RPO.
I agree but you completely ignored my question.
You claim the defenses I listed above don't "suck," that their performance is simply a product of offenses being more effective yet Alabama, Florida, and LSU are currently ranked 70th, 73rd, and 76th out of 77 teams in passing yards allowed.
This is despite the fact that they have much more talent than the majority of those other 74 teams.
I'll ask again, why are Alabama, Florida, and LSU being disproportionately affected by spread offenses?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:53 am to Buckeye Jeaux
It also feels like quarterbacks have reached another level. So many throws that are just on the money and nothing the defender can do
Posted on 10/21/20 at 10:57 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Yes
No. Football has seen the spread offense in one form or another since the early 1950s. It comes and goes, just like the veer, wishbone, wing-t and flexbone. It's all cyclical.
Posted on 10/21/20 at 11:42 am to SidewalkTiger
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I'll ask again, why are Alabama, Florida, and LSU being disproportionately affected by spread offenses?
They have a lot of passing yards against them because they are facing decent spread offenses that have explosive playmakers.
And defensive rankings mean almost nothing. Do you seriously believe the top-5 ranked passing D's are better than ANY SEC passing D?
Nation's top-5 pass D's?
1 Temple
2 UMass
2 WV
3 AF
4 UAB
Seriously?
Posted on 10/21/20 at 12:12 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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They have a lot of passing yards against them because they are facing decent spread offenses that have explosive playmakers.
They've played different combinations of A&M, State, Mizzou, Ole Miss, Vandy, Georgia.
There's only one top 10 passing offense in that group and its State who hasnt been good outside of the LSU game.
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you seriously believe the top-5 ranked passing D's are better than ANY SEC passing D?
No, I'm just asking why these talented teams are the worst in the country at defending the pass if an across the board change in philosophy is the root cause (as you claim).
Posted on 10/21/20 at 4:00 pm to SidewalkTiger
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No, I'm just asking why these talented teams are the worst in the country
"the worst in the country"? Based on what?
So you DON'T rely on the meaningless simplistic 'passing yards against' rankings... but at the same time you DO rely on them?
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