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re: Analogy - Why 4 & 5-wide Spread Offenses slaughter good Defenses
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:29 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Yes.
As much as they are now? Yes. Anyone with a brain knows that.
Lol no it isn't. June Jones is old. Bill Walsh and his west coast offense implemented in the 70s says otherwise.
Difference is, throwing the ball around like that used to be way more risky than it is now. These kids are slinging it all over the field now in middle school so by the time they get to college, they're much more productive and comfortable in those types of offenses. In turn, that makes coaches much more willing to run that type of offense. It isn't anything new. They've just gotten better at it.
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:29 am to TigerLunatik
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It's not as if 4 and 5 WR sets are brand new this season.
He just said it literally is new, though.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:31 am to TigerLunatik
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It's not as if 4 and 5 WR sets are brand new this season.
Count the 4 & 5-wide Spread plays in college ball this season.
Then count them for 2015, 2010, 2005, 2000, 1995.
Please don't act so stupid. You know I'm right.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:31 am to TigerLunatik
Arkansas has done a nice job the last couple of weeks dealing with those offenses. 8 covering 5 in zones and come up fast to deal with any runs. Add a nice job of tackling and you get success on defense.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:32 am to IAmNERD
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He just said it literally is new, though.
I said in this huge quantity it is new, Don't lie, a-hole.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:33 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Count the 4 & 5-wide Spread plays in college ball this season.
Then count them for 2015, 2010, 2005, 2000, 1995.
Holy shite dude. The concept of these offenses isn't anything new. It's just more teams are running it now.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:36 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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I said in this huge quantity it is new, Don't lie, a-hole
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You think this is the first time in the history of football teams are running 4 and 5 wide?
Yes.
That "yes" is your response.
I'm not lying, a-hole.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:37 am to IAmNERD
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Holy shite dude. The concept of these offenses isn't anything new. It's just more teams are running it now.
No one said the concept is new, moron. It is the vast increase in frequency of their use that is new... dude
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:38 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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No one said the concept is new, moron
See above idiot.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:38 am to IAmNERD
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That "yes" is your response.
I'm not lying, a-hole.
And then you left off the next sentence. You are lying by omission, jerk.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:39 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Sorry your dumbass thread didn't go the way you wanted brah. 
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:41 am to IAmNERD
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Yes.
As much as they are now? Yes. Anyone with a brain knows that.
^This is what i wrote
Sorry you have to lie to attempt to make a lameass point, jerk
This post was edited on 10/20/20 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:42 am to Buckeye Jeaux
Then I guess you should have omitted the "yes" and just gone with the second part. 
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:42 am to IAmNERD
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These QBs and WRs come into college much better prepared
I think this is actually a valid point.
As much as we fans like to armchair it, making consistently-elite reads and throws at the QB position is hard as shiiit.
Stand on the sideline and watch the athleticism and physicality up close, and it's mind-blowing.
There are many more capable, talented QBs available right now than there ever have been.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:44 am to NYCAuburn
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offenses are dramatically more limited in what they can do vs defenses
How so?
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:44 am to IAmNERD
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Then I guess you should have omitted the "yes" and just gone with the second part.
I made my point. it was clear to anyone who didn't intentionally 'misunderstand' it.
GFY, jerk.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:45 am to paperwasp
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As much as we fans like to armchair it, making consistently-elite reads and throws at the QB position is hard as shiiit.
Stand on the sideline and watch the athleticism and physicality up close, and it's mind-blowing.
There are many more capable, talented QBs available right now than there ever have been.
Yep. And exactly like I've been trying to tell OP, that, in turn, makes coaches much more comfortable than they were 10 years ago in running these types of offenses. Having the guys who know where to be and the skill to execute puts the mind at ease when you call for your QB to throw it 45 times a game.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:46 am to Buckeye Jeaux
u r so madPosted on 10/20/20 at 11:47 am to arcalades
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nope. football field is still the same size. still the same number of defenders. terrible analogy. the analogy would have to include 2 more goalies at the very least.
His analogy is ok, it’s just that rather than the field expanding, it’s OC’s and QB’s now utilizing the entire field as opposed to half or a third of it
Posted on 10/20/20 at 11:48 am to paperwasp
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There are many more capable, talented QBs available right now than there ever have been.
True enough.
But if you put them in a traditional pro-style offense, they won't put up 45-plus points a game, and won't throw in the mid 70's completion percentage
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