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Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:24 am to
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:24 am to
This is the Golden Age of Auburn basketball.

Auburn, Ole Miss, and UGA were probably the three worst teams in the 10 team SEC historically.

What Coach Pearl has done at Auburn is amazing.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:04 am to
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Yeah but didn't they have multiple final 4s in the 40s etc or is Wikepedia working me over?


Making a Final Four when you only have to win one game because the entire tournament was 8 teams doesn’t carry the same weight IMO.

It’s a little different when your talking an expanded field in the modern era, requiring several wins against high quality teams.
Posted by makersmark1
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:09 am to
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We have no history except for an AWESOME 97 season where we were a one seed and had Chris Porter doing the most unbelievable dunks,


1980s were decent.
Barkley.
Person.
Made NCAA most years.
Elite 8 in 1986.
Sweet 16 in 1985.

Marquis Daniels team in 2003 or so.

Not much, but more than nothing.

Coach Eaves had some good teams in 1950s-early 1960s.

A lefty in the 1930s later won a National Championship as a football coach.

Erk Russell was the last 4 sport letterman when he played football, basketball, baseball, and track.

In the 1970s, Eddie Johnson and Mike Mitchell were good players on bad teams.
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
67577 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:16 am to
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They don't. Like 5 more NCAAT wins but we have the extra title.


Arkansas

All time record 1,799–1,014 (.640)

1 Natty, 1 runner up
6 final fours
10 elite eights
14 sweet 16's
22 RO32
35 NCAAT trips

Florida

All time record 1,529–1,178 (.565)

2 Nattys, 1 runner up
5 final fours
9 elite eights
10 sweet 16's
16 RO32
22 NCAAT trips



This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 5:17 am
Posted by EricZeier
Member since Oct 2018
305 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 6:10 am to
It’s pretty incredible how bad we are at basketball. You would have thought we’d occasionally luck out into having a good team but nope. Just pure shite.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45001 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 6:33 am to
Auburn doesnt have any time for your luck.

Stay down bitch!
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
1922 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 6:47 am to
Florida goes 2 for me for the simple fact that back to back national titles in basketball is extremely difficult to accomplish.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14834 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:27 am to
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Only school with better basketball history than LSU is Kentucky. Period.


Well that is quantifiably wrong. LSU is outside the top three in all of the following categories and outside the top 5 in most of them:

All time wins
All time winning percentage
Regular season conference titles
Conference tournament titles
NCAA appearances
Sweet 16 appearances
Elite 8 apperances
Final four appearances
National championships

Posted by Early Man
Newport, KY
Member since Feb 2013
156 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:44 am to
I sometimes just like typing out these stats for Kentucky, but it has been a minute since they have had success in the postseason:

-8 NCAA Tournament Championships (5 different coaches have been able to lead UK to the Promised Land)…I’ve been fortunate to witness 3 of the 8.

-UK owns the best winning percentage of any team at .760 and is second to Kansas for all-time wins

-4 NCAA Runner-Ups

-17 Final Fours

-38 Elite Eights

-45 Sweet Sixteens

-2nd most NCAA Tournament wins at 131 (hopefully they pass UNC this year who has 132)
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
31837 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:12 am to
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Arkansas (102 seasons)

All time record 1,799–1,014 (.640)

1 Natty, 1 runner up
6 final fours (
10 elite eights
14 sweet 16's
22 RO32
36 NCAAT invites
24 Conference Championships
7 Conference Tournament Championships

Florida (104 seasons)

All time record 1,529–1,178 (.565)

2 Nattys, 1 runner up
5 final fours
9 elite eights
10 sweet 16's
16 RO32
22 NCAAT invites
7 Conference Championships
4 Conference Tournament Championships



Added some items and also changed to NCAAt invites. Arkansas had an invitation to one NCAAt that they were forced to withdraw from because of a team vehicle accident.

Picking between Florida and Arkansas is really cutting hairs. Neither is too close to Kentucky, but those two are also quite a ways ahead of the rest of the SEC. There could be an argument made for both really. Do you value sustained success over a period of program history, or do you value a period of success since 2000? Neither answer can be wrong in my opinion.
Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31837 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Only school with better basketball history than LSU is Kentucky. Period.


Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12179 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:21 am to
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PS: dont forget that basketball was played pre 2017 auburn fans


Posted by Wallacewade04
Valhalla
Member since Dec 2011
2870 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:25 am to
The Florida v Arkansas ranking is right but it is ever so close

The greatest thing about last years Final Four was getting to leave the "long tortured" club of teams that never made a final four (honestly just making the Elite Eight again and outrunning our horrible, horrible, HORRIBLE sweet 16 record)

Missouri and Tennessee are now the most tortured basketball fanbases in the SEC. The argument I would make for Missouri over Tennessee is Mizzou has more conference championships and more elite eight appearances but it's millimeters between these two teams

Posted by Hawgeye
tFlagship Brothel
Member since Jun 2009
31837 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Yeah but didn't they have multiple final 4s in the 40s etc or is Wikepedia working me over?


All schools who are proud of their basketball programs had multiple final fours in the early eras of their programs history.

Final Fours Prior to 1975 32 team expansion
UCLA: 11
Ohio State: 8
Kentucky: 6
Kansas: 6
North Carolina: 6
Cincinnati: 5
Oklahoma State: 4
Duke: 3
Indiana: 3
Illinois: 3
Louisville: 2
Arkansas: 2
Michigan: 2
Houston: 2
Michigan State: 1
Georgetown: 1
Posted by AdamsHouseCat
Member since Aug 2011
470 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:59 am to
Didn't we also once get to the Elite 8 with Sonny?
Posted by PanhandleDawg
Navarre Beach, FL
Member since Mar 2011
5558 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:05 am to
Only school with better basketball history than LSU is Kentucky. Period.[/quote]

quote:


I know Arkansas has a lot more Basketball history than Florida,

They don't. Like 5 more NCAAT wins but we have the extra title.




This goes back to 1940--- but good try LSU

Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
458 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 11:15 am to
Adding Texas puts them probably 4th and OU 5th.

I think the nattys for Florida and Ark put them ahead for sure.

Texas is 2nd in all time wins in conference (14th in all NCAA) 3rd in Win % all time (31st all time in NCAA) and has 3rd most NCAA game appearances.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7301 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:55 pm to
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The Florida v Arkansas ranking is right but it is ever so close
Im curious how does UF and Arkansas compare strictly since Arkansas joined the SEC? Was the SWC an easier path for Arkansas than UF in the SEC? Or was it harder? That would skew overall wins and tourney appearances. Both teams success seems pretty even to me like several people have stated.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7301 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 4:59 pm to
You could also look at how many NBA players are from SEC schools but Kentucky would just embarrass everyone.
Posted by PSS101
Member since Jun 2024
333 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 5:12 pm to
LSU has a Final Four from 1952-53
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