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re: All Time Baseball Program Rankings

Posted on 6/30/25 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/30/25 at 6:44 pm to
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“but just ahead of Mississippi State”

Think Arkansas would be close to level with State but not ahead. Programs are pretty close to each other success wise. Though State is ahead in most metrics.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/30/25 at 6:47 pm to
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It’s hilarious to watch little brother programs put together their own program ranking methods. You almost never see the big boys doing things like that, because they don’t have to.


Although I have to admit Alabama retroactively claiming that 1940’s title where we finished #20 in the AP is an all time little brother move. A relic of a time when we were desperate for the national attention we were used to but had not earned post-Bryant.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/30/25 at 6:52 pm to
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So aside from Kentucky, and I assume you’ll for sure say Auburn and Missouri, which other SEC programs are you saying Bama is better than?

Bama loves to hide behind SEC titles as a main metric to rank their program, conveniently making it impossible to be behind the expansion programs of Texas, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Arkansas, and Texas A&M which all have a much better all time resumes.


Alabama has been to 2 national title games. Their record in the world series is 11-10.

Auburn's world series record is 3-10.

Congrats on making it one more time and promptly losing both games.
This post was edited on 6/30/25 at 6:57 pm
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
383 Hoosier Daddy Lane
Member since Dec 2013
38687 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 6:55 pm to
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Alabama hasn’t been to Omaha in the 21st century

FIFY



ETA: Not SIAP



This post was edited on 6/30/25 at 7:00 pm
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8778 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 6:59 pm to
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Although I have to admit Alabama retroactively claiming that 1940’s title where we finished #20 in the AP is an all time little brother move. A relic of a time when we were desperate for the national attention we were used to but had not earned post-Bryant.


Yeah, that one is dumb, but there are at least 2 others that we were arguably the best program in the country and didn’t claim one. Think we had one in the 60s where we went undefeated and they gave it to someone who had either lost or tied (think the South was frowned upon at that time for political reasons).
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28376 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:06 pm to
You did a lot of work for such a dainty troll job.

I'll gift you a 2/10 strictly out of respect for the hustle and work ethic.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Member since Aug 2018
3749 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:06 pm to
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Yeah, that one is dumb, but there are at least 2 others that we were arguably the best program in the country and didn’t claim one.


The conference is full of teams who could claim those type seasons including Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas, etc. The point is that when you have won 15+ undisputed titles, why tarnish them with a couple wtf ones?
This post was edited on 6/30/25 at 7:08 pm
Posted by baytiger11
Member since Jul 2020
2380 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:09 pm to
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Meh, don't see how you can consider Texas the forefront. LSU is most definitely the top. They have 8 trophies and winning two of those in 3 years. Have to give credit where credit is due.
Also the 2009 championship (beating Texas) was a nice one sprinkled in to bridge what would’ve otherwise been a 23 year drought.
We have championships in the 90s, 2000’s, and 2020’s with a championship appearance in the 2010’s. Easily the most consistent program of the last 40 years.

It’s been 20 years since Texas’ last title and they also experienced a 25 year drought from ‘50 to ‘75.
It’s really not a close comparison between, imo, if you value championships.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23256 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:28 pm to
It gets hard to determine all-time greatest. Like has been pointed out, LSU pre-Skip was irrelevant, never a factor.
Once you get to Skip, we're clearly #1. So you have to reconcile that.

Same with USC; they're basically mediocre... with a decade of titles inserted. It's like the UCLA basketball run with Wooden. Impossible to ignore, but skews where they otherwise would be rated.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86935 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:36 pm to
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little brother programs


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big boys


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BamaBravesPackers




Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
114397 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:46 pm to
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the bottom line is that 2 additional national titles are not enough to overcome Texas having 27 more NCAA Tournament appearances and 18 more appearances in Omaha.


This is saying Texas should be awarded more points for losing more times. Appearances don't mean shite... do you have a case filled with CWS appearance trophies?
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
100,000 posts
Member since Jan 2007
55539 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:47 pm to
OP's an idiot.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52341 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Appearances don't mean shite...

Yes they do. Otherwise they wouldnt be tracked and your head coach wouldnt be given a bonus for the appearance.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52341 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:56 pm to
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OP's an idiot.

LSU fan siding with turd isn't objectively much of a surprise at all.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
26946 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 7:59 pm to
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It’s in the formula, but since that part of the metric is only since 1999

That was a great idea. Points for making a Super Regional is a perfect way to add additional points for recent success.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
9367 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 8:02 pm to
So when it was 1 title difference I was with you. Now that its a 2 title difference I do not.

LSU
UT
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/30/25 at 8:05 pm to
Don't make me take paperwasp's side on the OT.
Posted by AUTiger789
Birmingham, AL
Member since Apr 2022
3970 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 8:07 pm to
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It gets hard to determine all-time greatest. Like has been pointed out, LSU pre-Skip was irrelevant, never a factor. Once you get to Skip, we're clearly #1.


Yes. True.

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Same with USC; they're basically mediocre... with a decade of titles inserted. It's like the UCLA basketball run with Wooden. Impossible to ignore, but skews where they otherwise would be rated.


Exactly this. This is why USC falls to #3 in my list and isn’t #1. They have only one National Title in the last 47 years. They’ve only been to Omaha 4x in 47 years. You can’t be #1 all time with that type of performance over a near half century.

It’s also why the metric spits Texas out at #1. They’ve been by far the most consistent program over the history of the sport

Texas trips to the CWS by decade:

1940s: 1 (1 title)
1950s: 4 (1 title)
1960s: 7
1970s: 6 (1 title)
1980s: 7 (1 title)
1990s: 2
2000s: 6 (2 titles)
2010s: 3
2020s: 2

That’s insane consistency.
Posted by Swamp Frog x
Member since Nov 2024
887 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 8:12 pm to
That 62/24/0 for FSU will never not blow my mind. That’s almost statistically impossible not to luck into at least 1 championship.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52341 posts
Posted on 6/30/25 at 8:13 pm to
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Don't make me take paperwasp's side on the OT
Seems regrettable. Would advise against
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