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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I mean, it isn't THAT big a stretch. It isn't like Bregman was a 8th round pick.
Swanson was the #1 pick and Bregman was the #2 pick.
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I mean, it isn't THAT big a stretch. It isn't like Bregman was a 8th round pick.
No, not at all. Going off memory they were probably the 2nd and 3rd best players in the league last year, but there was juts one spot on the first team.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:07 pm to Farmer1906
Yea, I love Swanson. Quite frankly I'm still in disbelief that the D-Backs gave us Swanson and Blair (led alone Inciarte) for Shelby Miller.
I still can't fathom what exactly was going on in that front office meeting.
I still can't fathom what exactly was going on in that front office meeting.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:07 pm to Farmer1906
Seems like you're mainly just being a homer and don't want to own it. Using your logic, Senzel deserves b/c he is a far superior player to Boomer White.
And I disagree about Swanson being the superior player last year as did plenty others. It was very close and could go either way. I also think Bregman kind of got a bump b/c his CAREER was so much better than Swanson's. Bregman had 3 good seasons at LSU at SS. Swanson only started 2 years and one at 2B.
And I disagree about Swanson being the superior player last year as did plenty others. It was very close and could go either way. I also think Bregman kind of got a bump b/c his CAREER was so much better than Swanson's. Bregman had 3 good seasons at LSU at SS. Swanson only started 2 years and one at 2B.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:08 pm to Tom Haverford
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I appreciate how in baseball it's a legit "First Team" unlike basketball where 12 players make "1st Team."
Except only 5 players make first team in basketball.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:10 pm to Tigerfan56
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Except only 5 players make first team in basketball.
NOPE. There were 8 this year. MATH is hard
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:11 pm to Tom Haverford
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Senzel deserves b/c he is a far superior player to Boomer White.
He is huh?
Senzel
AVG - .340
OBP - .441
SLUG - .581
OPS - 1.022
White
AVG - .424
OBP - .500
SLUG - .551
OPS - 1.051
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Seems like you're mainly just being a homer and don't want to own it.
Not at all. You seem to have something against the 2 studs from A&M. When you factor in those 2 being on a winning team and playing against a tougher schedule, its not that close.
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:17 pm to Farmer1906
Why did you leave off these numbers?
SB
Senzel 23
White 7
HR
Senzel 8
White 3
Defense? Overall athleticism and talent?
Senzel will be a Top 10 overall pick next month. If you're holding team success (or lack therof) against Senzel then yeah, I can't do anything for you.
SB
Senzel 23
White 7
HR
Senzel 8
White 3
Defense? Overall athleticism and talent?
Senzel will be a Top 10 overall pick next month. If you're holding team success (or lack therof) against Senzel then yeah, I can't do anything for you.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:21 pm to Tom Haverford
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Why did you leave off these numbers?
HR is captured in the SLUG. SB is not a critical # of importance compared to the others.
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Senzel will be a Top 10 overall pick next month. If you're holding team success (or lack therof) against Senzel then yeah, I can't do anything for you.
They do that every year in all sports.
Draft position has zero to do with All SEC teams.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:25 pm to Farmer1906
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They do that every year in all sports.
Draft position has zero to do with All SEC teams.
I'm well aware of such. But earlier you implied Swanson was a far better player than Bregman (which is highly debatable). There is a much bigger gap between the talent level of Senzel and White. And like you presented, the numbers are relatively similar.
I'll take Senzel. As would most others.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:28 pm to Farmer1906
Power- Senzel
Speed- Senzel
Defense - Senzel
Approach - push
Average - White
Tools/Athleticsm - Senzel
Speed- Senzel
Defense - Senzel
Approach - push
Average - White
Tools/Athleticsm - Senzel
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:33 pm to Tom Haverford
Interesting that that #1 team in the country only has 4 players on that list and Peter Alonso isn't on it.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:33 pm to Tom Haverford
So is it talent level now? 
Swanson - .335 .423 .623 1.046
Bregman - .323 .412 .535 .947
Swanson also scored 17 more runs and drove in 15 more runs.
Did I say he was far better? I thought I said it was close (2nd & 3rd in the league). Regardless they were both great, but it was clear to me that Swanson had the better year.
Swanson - .335 .423 .623 1.046
Bregman - .323 .412 .535 .947
Swanson also scored 17 more runs and drove in 15 more runs.
Did I say he was far better? I thought I said it was close (2nd & 3rd in the league). Regardless they were both great, but it was clear to me that Swanson had the better year.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:34 pm to Tom Haverford
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C- Michael Curry/UGA (despite yips)
What does this mean?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:37 pm to Farmer1906
Runs and RBI's are team-dependant stat. I give them little to now consideration.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:38 pm to tylerdurden24
He can't throw the ball back to the pitcher without pausing/jerk motion. It's painful to watch.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:39 pm to tylerdurden24
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C- Michael Curry/UGA (despite yips)
What does this mean?
I'm guessing that this refers to the unorthodox way that he throws the ball back to the pitcher or on steal attempts.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:42 pm to Farmer1906
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Swanson also scored 17 more runs and drove in 15 more runs
and Bregman had 38 stolen bases to Swanson's 17
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:43 pm to lsufball19
I wouldn't consider SBs near as important Runs or RBIs. And you would think someone who stole so many bases would score more.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:44 pm to roadGator
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Interesting that that #1 team in the country only has 4 players on that list and Peter Alonso isn't on it.
I probably should have included Alonso but he's hurt now---the voters typically award close calls or straight up put the players from the top teams on the All-Conference lists in favor of often more-deserving/better players on worse teams. I didn't do that with MY LIST. MY LIST was not a prediction of how the coaches/media will vote.
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