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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:46 pm to Farmer1906
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:46 pm to Farmer1906
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I wouldn't consider SBs near as important Runs or RBIs. And you would think someone who stole so many bases would score more.
runs depend on who's hitting behind you and relying on them to hit you in. RBIs are dependent upon someone else being on base. stolen bases are 100% a product of that individual player producing.
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:46 pm to Farmer1906
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I wouldn't consider SBs near as important Runs or RBIs. And you would think someone who stole so many bases would score more.
Goodness. You typically can't score runs if someone doesn't hit you in. You can't get RBI's if no one is on base to drive it. Thus, they're largely team-dependent stats.
Stolen bases aren't really team-dependent---unless your coach just doesn't believe in stealing bases or something. I presented simply to show the clear disparity in speed between Senzel and White.
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:48 pm to Farmer1906
another stat you should consider but probably won't since the benefit doesn't always show up in the box score. Bregman only struck out 22 times in 260 ABs (absurd). Swanson struck out 54 times in 281 ABs (still good).
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:54 pm to lsufball19
that was the one area where i disagreed with the bama fan in his earlier comparison between white/senzel. I wouldnt say their approach is a push when boomer has only struck out 6% of his ABs.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 3:57 pm to lsufball19
Bregman is/was a stud. He was better in Swanson in some areas. You won't find many people that value SBs over runs, rbis, avg, obp, slug, & ops.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:00 pm to Farmer1906
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You won't find many people that value SBs over runs, rbis, avg, obp, slug, & ops.
I guess except the people that selected the All-SEC teams last year
Swanson hit for more power. That is really the only negligible difference in all of those stats you provided. And like the other poster mentioned, Bregman put up those numbers for 3 straight seasons, unlike Swanson. Maybe you don't agree with him getting credit for that, but he did all the same
ETA: and do yourself a favor and go look at what they're both doing in AA right now and tell me Swanson is a far superior talent
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Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:02 pm to lsufball19
He did get credit for those years during those years awards/teams at the end of the year.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:06 pm to Tom Haverford
I don't even know where to start with this.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:08 pm to DynastyDawg
Nathaniel Lowe should be 1st team 1B
Jake Mangum could be 1st team OF (Definitely should be 2nd team)
ETA: The Missouri 1B could probably be 1st team over Destino
Jake Mangum could be 1st team OF (Definitely should be 2nd team)
ETA: The Missouri 1B could probably be 1st team over Destino
This post was edited on 5/17/16 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:19 pm to DynastyDawg
Player - Runs - HR - RBI - AVG - OBP - SLUG - OPS
Lavy - 42 - 8 - 54 - .338 - .397 - .626 - 1.023
Melton - 46 - 11 - 60 - .335 - .404 - .579 - .983
It is fairly close. Edge to Lavy maybe with Melton's recent slump, but Lavy is a the best player on a bad team.
Lavy - 42 - 8 - 54 - .338 - .397 - .626 - 1.023
Melton - 46 - 11 - 60 - .335 - .404 - .579 - .983
It is fairly close. Edge to Lavy maybe with Melton's recent slump, but Lavy is a the best player on a bad team.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:20 pm to Farmer1906
Who is Melton?
Could you add Lowe and Destino's stats to that?
Could you add Lowe and Destino's stats to that?
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:21 pm to Farmer1906
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I wouldn't consider SBs near as important Runs or RBIs. And you would think someone who stole so many bases would score more.
Tamu as a team is hitting almost 30 points higher as a team plus Senzel's fielding is much better. If I am taking a player for the postseason right now I am taking Senzel over White but only barely.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:28 pm to DynastyDawg
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Who is Melton?
Best 1B in the SEC.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:32 pm to lsufball19
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I'd put LSU C Jordan Romero over Rivera on 2nd team. .339 BA 9 HRs 39 RBIs and has only started 30 games
Have to say CPM was slow to pull the trigger on benching Papierski.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 4:51 pm to Tom Haverford
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He can't throw the ball back to the pitcher without pausing/jerk motion. It's painful to watch.
Yeah, he has a hitch in his throw. But I've watched every UGA game this season and to my knowledge he hasn't ever had the yips (meaning he hasn't thrown a ball into the outfield or past the pitcher that I've seen). He more than justified his spot on that list with 11 HRs so far this season and nearly perfect defense (don't recall many if any passed balls this year).
Posted on 5/17/16 at 5:28 pm to Tom Haverford
As good of a year as Grier has had for us, you don't often see guys on last place teams get named POY.
I haven't followed baseball much this year, but I'd be surprised to even see him 1st team.
I haven't followed baseball much this year, but I'd be surprised to even see him 1st team.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:16 pm to tylerdurden24
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Yeah, he has a hitch in his throw. But I've watched every UGA game this season and to my knowledge he hasn't ever had the yips (meaning he hasn't thrown a ball into the outfield or past the pitcher that I've seen). He more than justified his spot on that list with 11 HRs so far this season and nearly perfect defense (don't recall many if any passed balls this year).
I was 100% kidding with the initial yips comments. I figured anyone that had watched UGA would get the joke. I was not meaning to downplay the season Curry's had.
I will say as a side note, let's pretend Curry (just as an example) had hit .344/.430/.580 with 18 HR's. That's great and all that most people only look at those numbers...imagine he also allowed 16 passed balls (plus 6 passed balls ruled wild pitches) and only threw out 5% of would-be base stealers---well that's something to take into account in terms of "All-Conference." best at the position. And let's be clear, Fielding percentage is a complete joke.
As an Alabama fan, there are so many examples this year of our home games, where some infield hit is ruled an error that should be a hit just to help the team ERA. And conversely, so many "singles" we've had ruled a hit which should have been an error just to help our team batting average.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:18 pm to BowlJackson
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As good of a year as Grier has had for us, you don't often see guys on last place teams get named POY.
I haven't followed baseball much this year, but I'd be surprised to even see him 1st team.
I'm not predicted Anfernee Grier will be SEC POY but in my opinion, he should be. That is the point of my OP---who I think *should* be First/2nd team all-SEC. It should ideally be the best players individually (which is certainly up for debate clearly) not just the best players on the best teams---in which case it would be nothing but TAMU/UF/USC/State players.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:22 pm to RANDY44
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I'd put LSU C Jordan Romero over Rivera on 2nd team. .339 BA 9 HRs 39 RBIs and has only started 30 games
At least 4 or so LSU fans have mentioned Romero by now...and I get it, his raw numbers look good but there is something to be said for doing it over 50-55 games as opposed to 30-35.
Had I made this same post midway through the season, John Jones of USC would be everyone's first team b/c he was hitting like .430 or something. No one has mentioned him for 1st/2nd team yet in this thread. So that's kinda my point.
And it doesn't take away from Romero, but it's extremely assumptive to assume his numbers would be correlate and be the same over the course of 50+ games.
Posted on 5/17/16 at 7:24 pm to Tom Haverford
Furthermore, Joshau Palacios of Auburn has GREAT numbers in limited action and no one has mentioned him, yet.
Or Jacob Robson of State.
Or Jacob Robson of State.
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