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Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:08 am to Loganville Vols
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:08 am to Loganville Vols
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@TomMarsLaw
Must be a personal injury lawyer - must have a bunch of butthurt clients.
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:12 am to Smokeys Howl
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A booster by definition is tied to a University.
Wrong.
A booster can donate to different universities, BY DEFINITION.
Not sure what you think is wrong.
A booster is defined as someone or some organization that either donates to or promotes a university (the latter is why collectives are boosters).
Universities are responsible for the actions of their boosters if they violate NCAA rules. This is what is meant by them being "tied" to a university.
And according to NCAA rules, once a person or organization qualifies as a booster, that tie exists forever. If someone gave 10 dollars to a school's athletic association 40 years ago, they are still a booster today.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:14 am to Smokeys Howl
In case you're curious, here is the NCAA bylaws on what defines a booster:
13.02.16 Representative of Athletics Interests. A "representative of the institution's athletics interests" is an individual, independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to: (Revised: 2/16/00, 4/25/18)
(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program;
(b) Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or to an athletics booster organization of that institution;
(c) Be assisting or to have been requested (by the athletics department staff) to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;
(d) Be assisting or to have assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their family members; or
(e) Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution's athletics program."
Collectives qualify in items D and E.
13.02.16 Representative of Athletics Interests. A "representative of the institution's athletics interests" is an individual, independent agency, corporate entity (e.g., apparel or equipment manufacturer) or other organization who is known (or who should have been known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to: (Revised: 2/16/00, 4/25/18)
(a) Have participated in or to be a member of an agency or organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program;
(b) Have made financial contributions to the athletics department or to an athletics booster organization of that institution;
(c) Be assisting or to have been requested (by the athletics department staff) to assist in the recruitment of prospective student-athletes;
(d) Be assisting or to have assisted in providing benefits to enrolled student-athletes or their family members; or
(e) Have been involved otherwise in promoting the institution's athletics program."
Collectives qualify in items D and E.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:15 am to Loganville Vols
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Only a fool would believe that. Alabama has reputation of handing out Dodge chargers to all their players so now Alabama is like a Sunday school? We have no sin? That’s laughable.
Okay. Enjoy the death penalty, I guess.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:27 am to Tuscaloosa
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Our collective isn’t anywhere on campus, nor are any NIL deals directly associated with the University.
Your collective is represented at the center.
By comparison, Georgia's collective center is located 100 yards off of campus property on Hull Street.
Bama's 15 year Learfield deal helped push Saban out the door.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:55 am to Loganville Vols
But thanks to Georgia, they have been exposed.
Know how an illegal drug business can disguise themselves?
Know how an illegal drug business can disguise themselves?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:59 am to Loganville Vols
See how you expose more UGA and Bama fans with their fly open.
The more they deflect about their illegal dealings and try to go after us, the more exposed and guilty as hell they become
The more they deflect about their illegal dealings and try to go after us, the more exposed and guilty as hell they become
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:14 am to Tuscaloosa
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That’s not what’s going on or how any of this works.
Alabama opened an NIL (name, image, likeness) center to help educate its student athletes and give them resources to help build their own brands - which is the entire intent of NIL rules. It gives them access to resources like green screens, podcasting setups, etc.
Our collective isn’t anywhere on campus, nor are any NIL deals directly associated with the University.
Educate yourself so you don’t spend a whole arse beautiful Friday mad at nothing.
You're trying to educate the brain damaged.
I wish you luck in this fruitless endeavor.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:54 am to Tuscaloosa
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TomMarsLaw That’s not what’s going on or how any of this works. Alabama opened an NIL (name, image, likeness) center to help educate its student athletes and give them resources to help build their own brands - which is the entire intent of NIL rules. It gives them access to resources like green screens, podcasting setups, etc. Our collective isn’t anywhere on campus, nor are any NIL deals directly associated with the University. Educate yourself so you don’t spend a whole arse beautiful Friday mad at nothing.
Bingo. That is too much for the mouth breathers on here . It’s why this forum is basically trash
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:09 pm to Hback
Losing in Neyland, what's that like?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:15 pm to Loganville Vols
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We know everybody knows Alabama is one of the teams that are protected.
Y'all should be used to it by now. Sweet Baby Jesus, if it's possible to sound more little brother than the average Auburn fan, you're doin' it.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:56 pm to Loganville Vols
You got 'em.
I understand that Alabama's NIL center is relocating to Bucksnort, TN to throw the ncaa of the trail.
I understand that Alabama's NIL center is relocating to Bucksnort, TN to throw the ncaa of the trail.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:00 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Our collective isn’t anywhere on campus,
That’s a flat out lie. Learfield is the licensing agent for Alabama since 1981 and been selling tickets since then. They are employed by Alabama and also negotiating NIL deals. How is it a company been in businesses with Alabama since 1981, and they are allowed to form a collective and negotiate NIL deals. Employees or boosters are not supposed to be doing that. And Learfield is both!!
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:04 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Our collective isn’t anywhere on campus, nor are any NIL deals directly associated with the University.
“ Learfield has had a longtime working relationship with Alabama, with Learfield-owned companies Paciolan and Sidearm Sports representing the athletics department for ticketing and its official website. Its licensing division CLC also has acted as the exclusive licensing agent for Alabama since 1981. These arrangements are however negotiated separately from the multimedia rights deal that's just been agreed.”
Learfield is the collective! How is Alabama not associated with this when they sell Alabama tickets and holds the licensing for it since 1981. This makes them contracted employees.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:13 pm to skrayper
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Our collective isn’t anywhere on campus, nor are any NIL deals directly associated with the University.
The "Opportunity Center" run by Learfield directs student-athletes towards sponsors. Learfield is a client of the University of Alabama by virtue of operating and conducting business on campus.
From the collective website:
"Before entering such a contract, the student-athlete is required to disclose any proposed contract for use of their NIL to the University of Alabama."
Saban was frustrated because the Learfield step, along with the review process, made it increasingly difficult to get athletes to commit within a short period after visitation. This, of course, was in contrast to the streamlined or expedited actions of rival institutions.
Meanwhile, in contrast, the Tennessee administration was apparently not privy to the actions of boosters that overlapped into recruitment activities with certain staff. Plowman complained about the NCAA citing a "Lack of Institutional Control."
You might think that after Tennessee was under such NCAA scrutiny from the past blunders that they would go out of their way to be as careful as possible.
It will be interesting to get a detailed explanation of what was involved.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:20 pm to Loganville Vols
Your understanding of the Alabama NIL center is on par with saying
"School X has a Rape Crisis Center on campus.... I thought rape was illegal. This means they are organizing the raping people on campus???!!!"
"School X has a Rape Crisis Center on campus.... I thought rape was illegal. This means they are organizing the raping people on campus???!!!"
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:21 pm to Chip82
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will be interesting to get a detailed explanation of what was involved.
The NCAA has been in Knoxville since December. They have reviewed thousands of documents and phone records and found no NIL Violations. Plowman requested a meeting with the president in person to find out exactly what they was looking for. Instead of meeting with her, he refused and leaked it to the public instead. There is no Notice of Allegations sent or charges by the NCAA.
Once they didn’t find anything they wanted to try and embarrass Tennessee and put them on trial in the court of public opinion. Well that was the worst mistake they did, because they was not expecting UT to fire back like they have along with the AG of Virginia and Tennessee to file federal Anti Trust lawsuits. Since December they have not been clear about anything with UT. It’s almost like they are still mad at them for not handing them a bowl ban for the Pruitt issues.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:22 pm to Hot_in_the_box
But look how Bama and UGA fans sound so stupid if they can't answer their own question about money, diamonds and vehicles.
They been exposed.
They can't even answer the Learfield question.
They been exposed.
They can't even answer the Learfield question.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:23 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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Your understanding of the Alabama NIL center is on par with saying
We all want to know is how did Tennessee get selected by the NCAA when there are more obvious cases out there. Let me educate you on Learfield:
Learfield has had a longtime working relationship with Alabama, with Learfield-owned companies Paciolan and Sidearm Sports representing the athletics department for ticketing and its official website. Its licensing division CLC also has acted as the exclusive licensing agent for Alabama since 1981. These arrangements are however negotiated separately from the multimedia rights deal that's just been agreed.
How is this ok for a company that is an employee of Alabama also negotiating NIL deals?
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:25 pm to Hot_in_the_box
Now they have been exposed along with Georgia, Alabama and Ohio State.
BTW: The bowl ban did happen in December of 2020 when we refused to play in a bowl against West Virginia. It was self-imposed.
BTW: The bowl ban did happen in December of 2020 when we refused to play in a bowl against West Virginia. It was self-imposed.
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