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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:38 am to BamafaninFlorida
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:38 am to BamafaninFlorida
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then all he did was hit Bolden in the damn hands in the end zone that he dropped.
We still scored a TD after that drop. If anything, Bolden dropping it allow us to run more clock.
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:40 am to TideSaint
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It's kind of hard to get pressure when you are mush rushing two down linemen on every play. Talent has nothing to do with it. It's 100% coaching.
Us LSU fans feel your pain, but we’re trending upward on D now. Hope it continues. State and Aub next two weeks will tell us.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:40 am to TN Dawg2
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...to be the Terminator cyborg they have been in the past.
They usually crush the opponents' will early and then choke the life out of them slowly until they die a painful football death.
But a mediocre set of skill players at Florida had them hanging on for dear life and they look beatable.
This has to be troubling if you are a Tide fan.
Do they find another gear? Probably, Saban is the GOAT and has coached them up in the past, so if history is a teacher, we can assume they get stronger.
But then again.....
I agree with the premise that this team is talented but doesn't have that killer instinct of a champion. It could develop though. My theory is they're going to have to lose a game to receive the information the coaching staff is selling to them w/r/t being a great competitor. The sooner the better imo. Would be pretty funny if Kiffin becomes the first assistant to beat Saban but that loss ends up propelling Saban's team to meeting their potential. Maybe not, might just be the first of 2 or more losses. Who can tell? It is a younger team than the last season.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 8:41 am
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:52 am to TrueTigerTale
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It's kind of hard to get pressure when you are mush rushing two down linemen on every play. Talent has nothing to do with it. It's 100% coaching.
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Us LSU fans feel your pain, but we’re trending upward on D now. Hope it continues. State and Aub next two weeks will tell us.
The place where I differ from many Alabama fans is that I don't think this is a uniquely Pete Golding problem. So many of Saban's former defensive assistants leave the program and immediately pare down the complexity of the scheme dramatically to improve execution. Ultimately the blame is at Saban's feet because Pruitt left a good blueprint for paring down his schemes to the essential and it doesn't seem to have stuck with the program past his departure for Knoxville.
Saban's the GOAT though. He has 7 national titles and he's won titles in spite of his own defense a couple of times. Ultimately with how the game is played, it is just about getting off the field on 3rd and longs more consistently. That's been the big problem the last 4 seasons.
Of course, we've played 2 games against Mullen where he either unloads back into empty or outright aligns in it...and we see #8's arse trotting out to the sideline to cover the back...and they can either run QB draw/power or a simple slant and stop into the void in the middle of the defense every fricking time. Just play zone against it you chucklefricks.
So I'm not sure it is bad execution as much as bad strategy. Certainly at a minimum it is a combo of the two. It is clear that teams basically spend a lot their prep on 3rd and long execution. Saban gotta change it up sometimes because it is maddening to see teams just personnel and formation our asses into a busted play before the snap even happens.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:53 am to TN Dawg2
Are we going to go undefeated? Most likely not. That doesn't mean we're not gonna win a championship
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:08 am to secuniversity
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Florida is a top 5 team.
They better find a QB if they want to be top 5
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:46 am to TN Dawg2
Bama has a game like that every year.
2010- South Carolina
2011- Georgia Southern
2012- A&M
2013- A&M
2014- Auburn
2015- Ole Miss
2016- Ole Miss and Arkansas
2017- Auburn
2018- Arkansas
2019- Ole Miss/LSU/Auburn
2020- Ole Miss and Florida
It's like people forget about those games. In those 11 seasons, Bama won 5 titles and made 6 playoff appearances.
Bama usually needs a wake up call every year, other wise they get bored. Being up 21-3 against Florida, Bama got complacent and it took the offense a quarter to get it back going.
2010- South Carolina
2011- Georgia Southern
2012- A&M
2013- A&M
2014- Auburn
2015- Ole Miss
2016- Ole Miss and Arkansas
2017- Auburn
2018- Arkansas
2019- Ole Miss/LSU/Auburn
2020- Ole Miss and Florida
It's like people forget about those games. In those 11 seasons, Bama won 5 titles and made 6 playoff appearances.
Bama usually needs a wake up call every year, other wise they get bored. Being up 21-3 against Florida, Bama got complacent and it took the offense a quarter to get it back going.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:48 am to TN Dawg2
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But then again.....
…Kirb still has not best his mentor/boss/daddy.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:55 am to FlexDawg
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They better find a QB if they want to be top 5
They played like a top 5 team with their qb
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:57 am to Marktastic86
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Maybe wait til UGA actually beats Florida before calling them mediocre.
Ga has no offense. Awesome defense!
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:58 am to TrueTigerTale
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Ga has no offense.
Do what?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:04 am to Diego Ricardo
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The place where I differ from many Alabama fans is that I don't think this is a uniquely Pete Golding problem. So many of Saban's former defensive assistants leave the program and immediately pare down the complexity of the scheme dramatically to improve execution. Ultimately the blame is at Saban's feet because Pruitt left a good blueprint for paring down his schemes to the essential and it doesn't seem to have stuck with the program past his departure for Knoxville.
Pruitt simplified the defense so he could play aggressively and fast. Jeremey Pruitt's defenses were blitzing at around 50% compared to around 30% for a Kirby Smart defense. It was attack, attack, attack. His linebackers were super hawkish getting to the QB.
Coach Saban wasn't doing that yesterday and has gone back to all the conservative stuff with Golding/Smart that keeps us a step behind good offenses. It's his nature after all. Golding just doesn't have the personality to implement an aggressive style cause he obviously won't or can't do it over coach Saban's dead body.
Jeremy Pruitt could.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:54 am to Spaceman Spiff
I've made no allusions to Georgia beating Bama.
I've merely made the observation that Bama appears beatable in contrast to other years. They don't appear to have the level of physicality and athleticism that we have seen in some of the more dominant squads. I stand by that comment.
Further, I haven't made the claim that Georgia has more impressive wins or anything to that effect.
I have stated that I think Florida's skill set players are mediocre, I stick by that comment as well. I do not see their skill set talent level on a par with some of their better teams, and definitely feel like EJ & Co are a step down from Trask, Pitts, Grimes and Co.
I've merely made the observation that Bama appears beatable in contrast to other years. They don't appear to have the level of physicality and athleticism that we have seen in some of the more dominant squads. I stand by that comment.
Further, I haven't made the claim that Georgia has more impressive wins or anything to that effect.
I have stated that I think Florida's skill set players are mediocre, I stick by that comment as well. I do not see their skill set talent level on a par with some of their better teams, and definitely feel like EJ & Co are a step down from Trask, Pitts, Grimes and Co.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:00 am to TN Dawg2
Put it this way, At no point vs. Florida did I feel like we were at risk of losing the game.
Vs. Florida in the SECCG last year, I remember being on the edge of my seat hoping we'd pull it off.
So if we're not very good this year, apparently nobody else is either, because OSU, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc all look down this year.
Maybe this is the year the stars align for the Dawgs. Alabama is still a damn tough out for anyone though. We're losing 2 games tops this season. One reg season and one post season - tops.
Vs. Florida in the SECCG last year, I remember being on the edge of my seat hoping we'd pull it off.
So if we're not very good this year, apparently nobody else is either, because OSU, Clemson, Oklahoma, etc all look down this year.
Maybe this is the year the stars align for the Dawgs. Alabama is still a damn tough out for anyone though. We're losing 2 games tops this season. One reg season and one post season - tops.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:07 am to CrimsonClover
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So if we're not very good this year
Saying you all are beatable is not saying "you're not very good".
Just beatable.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:25 am to TN Dawg2
My guess is ga fans will never learn.........
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:42 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:Good post. Hopefully some guys step up after that punch in the mouth game and show some serious leadership from here on out. This team is lacking a true leader to push and hold 'em accountable. someone to challenge them and get on their arse when they make mistakes.
I don't truly believe that our defense is as bad as the second half of that UF game.
I think that they got complacent when we went up 21-3 and then when the momentum shifted and UFs crowd got going, they didn't really know how to react.
You gotta remember two things: that was most of our guys first true away game, and that is one of the rowdiest atmospheres in cfb. Second thing is this defense is quite used to having a nice fat cushion to play on with our offense scoring on nearly every possession last year.
They got punched in the mouth and didn't know how to react. They will learn a lot from that came. They'll be fine going forward IMO.
The real problem is our run blocking. That has to develop if we wanna take it all the way again. Should be a very exciting and fun season.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:38 pm to TN Dawg2
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Saying you all are beatable is not saying "you're not very good".
Just beatable.
This is the crux of it. This is a very talented football team. I do not think they're a championship football team right now. People get a bit hyperbolic sometimes.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:00 pm to Diego Ricardo
SEC has more teams that could improve enough not just Bama. It’s going to be a crazy season in the SEC East and West.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:54 pm to TN Dawg2
Same shite was said in 2015 when they won it all. Very few National championship teams have been elite at every position group. Most championship teams aren’t going to look like 2008 Florida or 2011 Alabama or 2019 LSU.
The question is; are they still better than everyone else this year?
The question is; are they still better than everyone else this year?
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