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re: Alabama AD: Cutting Sports Might Be Only Way to Pay Athletes
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:54 am to Globetrotter747
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:54 am to Globetrotter747
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Fans might would sacrifice the talent level of the sport (across the board) for some more “loyalty,” but they absolutely will not sacrifice winning for it. That’s why NIL and the portal persist. The fans and schools may not like it, but they will play it rather than lose because of it. It isn’t enough to have a good team with a bunch of in-state good ole boys. You must have a great team with the best players you can find - even if they are from the other side of the country, mediocre academically, and have questionable character.
I can get with what you're saying, but who's going to control spending while all this new-age NIL money is being bidded? Not the schools, not the collective, and not the head coaches and ADs. How much longer before we break our own piggy banks?
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:40 am to Darth_Vader
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I have no idea how all this will sort itself out. But I have a sinking feeling in my gut in the very near future we won’t recognize college football as we’ve known it.
Football will be cut. New corporate organizations will be built that take over minor league football and lease logos, naming, and stadium rights.
Players will be paid and will be incentivized but not be required to go to school.
Fixes the title IX question but support will plummet. Players will start getting minor league salaries, the NFL will start drafting out of high school and big time college football will die.
In the next five years. Watch.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:33 am to Night Vision
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Still waiting for the trannies to take over softball, volleyball and women's basketball, women's track, ...
Of course you are waiting on it. Obsessed with it even.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 11:21 am to Darth_Vader
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in the very near future we won’t recognize college football as we’ve known it.
The future is now. NIL and the unlimited transfer portal have already set in motion the destruction of college football as we have known it.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:06 pm to Darth_Vader
That's what Lindenwood U did months ago. Football runs the show.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:23 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:Schools will separate their athletic programs into tiers or levels which will take care of any Title IX issues.
At some point, football has to be exempt from Title IX because there is no female equivalent.
Example:
Tier 1 Men's Football & Basketball = players are under employment contracts & receive 20% of revenue, no scholarship.
Tier 2 Baseball/Softball/Women's basketball = athletes receive scholarship + room/board + a stipend + a tiny % of revenue
Tier 3 Track/Field/Rowing/Swimming, etc. = players receive scholarship + room/board + a fixed stipend.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:41 pm to bamameister
quote:Who exactly is Sankey arguing with?
The idea that college sports is now close to DEFCON 1 is getting clearer. The NCAA can't hold on much longer with its, "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil" approach to problem-solving. Sankey sounds like he's about fed up watching these tits-on-bulls continue to sleep at the wheel. Especially as we all watch the NCAA go through the House settlement that will cost schools billions of dollars.
Greg Sankey told the NCAA "that sometimes you just have to be a jerk" to get things done. At this point, that sounds like a nice change of pace.
The NCAA is the enforcement arm of its member institutions>>> the universities. The university presidents & AD's enact the rules and the NCAA carries out the enforcement of the agreed upon rules that were established by the university presidents/chancellor's/AD's.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:45 pm to Darth_Vader
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I have no idea how all this will sort itself out. But I have a sinking feeling in my gut in the very near future we won’t recognize college football as we’ve known it.
You can still recognize it?
Posted on 5/31/24 at 12:46 pm to Darth_Vader
He didn't say Dat at all
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:23 pm to bamameister
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How is men's sports in the so-called minor category any less in danger? Full rides are hard to come by in these sports and it takes football money to do it. In a couple more years of NIL, these bidding wars will get NFL stupid if they haven't already and Greg can see the magnitude of NIL money being spent from where he is standing. And so can Brian Kelly and Smart and Hugh Freeze, who I've heard say so much. College sports is in big azz trouble.
Speaking of
https://x.com/AC_TwoCircles/status/1795833202009067773
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:27 pm to McMillan
LSU Baseball LOST money last season.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 1:52 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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At some point, football has to be exempt from Title IX because there is no female equivalent.
Somebody knows nothing about how our federal government operates.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:02 pm to Darth_Vader
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don’t see them being able to cut any women’s athletic teams without facing immediate litigation. Things are going to get messy.
How? Cut men's AND women's lacrosse, horseback riding etc
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:18 pm to Night Vision
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Still waiting for the trannies to take over softball, volleyball and women's basketball, women's track, ...
This won't happen because state legislatures acted to prevent it.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:23 pm to solus
College football is going the way of the dodo and will be replaced by a true NFL minor league or leagues eventually. This is ultimately the right way to correct the issue.This is the right way to fix the issue even if it sounds really bad because we are here because we love college football.
Realistically, if the antique idea of the NCAA were proposed today (scholarship athletes cannot earn money off of their name, image, likeness) then it would have never happened.
Everyone wants to demonize the players seeking compensation but they are only partially the bad guy. The NCAA was on the wrong side of the battle from the get-go from a constitutional standpoint, and big money boosters who are willing to foot the NIL deals for the sake of winning are also contributors.
It's a new market so everything is brand new but as all markets do, it will eventually self-regulate. It just may not be the Alabama Crimson Tide when it happens.
Realistically, if the antique idea of the NCAA were proposed today (scholarship athletes cannot earn money off of their name, image, likeness) then it would have never happened.
Everyone wants to demonize the players seeking compensation but they are only partially the bad guy. The NCAA was on the wrong side of the battle from the get-go from a constitutional standpoint, and big money boosters who are willing to foot the NIL deals for the sake of winning are also contributors.
It's a new market so everything is brand new but as all markets do, it will eventually self-regulate. It just may not be the Alabama Crimson Tide when it happens.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 2:23 pm to Darth_Vader
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citing the value of supporting Olympic sports within the collegiate model.
Title 9 already destroyed our men's Olympic teams. I'm fine with NIL destroying the women's teams.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 5:04 pm to imjustafatkid
The real question is will Arkansas cut football so they can keep T&F and continue claiming they lead the conference in national championships.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:32 pm to Darth_Vader
No mo big bitches on the softball diamond
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:47 pm to AllDayEveryDay
They should have always been club sports. No reason to be spending that much money on those sports.
Posted on 5/31/24 at 8:54 pm to lsusteve1
Eventually the football team is going to have to reduce the number of players and I can see over a period of 6-10 years the number of players on a college team going from 85 to 55 with no walk-ons. Then you can keep women's sports and some men's sports.
The players that are going to be elimated are your 3 star some 4 star football players.
The players that are going to be elimated are your 3 star some 4 star football players.
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