re: Agiye Hall Gone

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So your take is Saban would rather lose games with lesser players rather than play the best players?

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What I'm saying is that Saban would rather play the players he likes. He doesn't like to take guy's starting jobs away from them. He's even said he's a really loyal coach. He plays some less talented players until he feels like his team is threatened - then he puts in the more talented players.

This has happened on multiple occasions. the most obvious is the title game with tua, najee, and the freshmen WRs.

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His dad let his brother transfer, which is precedent. Plus, I doubt his dad was happy with tua being stuck behind hurts for one year, much less 2.

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He was a true freshman QB. You can believe what you want, but his parents came to Alabama for the long haul, not to be an immediate starter. They came knowing Hurts was the starter and that he would be the starter that year.

As for his brother - his brother transferred after Tua left for the draft. He's no where near as talented and he doesn't have a future in the NFL. It was obvious he would never be the starter.

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UGA hadn't scored that last TD before the half, forcing Saban's hand, who knows what would've happened.

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Yep. It was a move that only happened out of pure desperation.

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After watching hurts struggles, safe to assume their thought process changed, and they wouldn’t have sat behind him for a second straight year.

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That's your narrative, not reality. Hurts was the offensive MVP in the semi-playoff game and had gone like 26-2 as a starter over 2 years.

Meanwhile, it has been said that Tua made good progress during the bowl/playoff prep because Hurts was sick.

Tua was far from being a good starter and made many bad decisions, even in the 2nd half of the UGA game. I mean everyone focuses on 2nd and 26, but nobody focuses on the fact that it was 2nd and 26 because he took a 16 yard sack in which he flat out refused to throw the ball away. Total boneheaded play, kind of like he threw a fricking interception with 20 seconds left in the 1st half from his own 26 on 1st down against LSU in 2019. Dude has serious decision making issues. Something that he never did fix even after being the starter for the next year and a half, and something I still see him doing in the NFL.

Hurts struggled in the passing game, but he did move the ball pretty well most of the time. Georgia shut it down, so a change was made.

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He's even said he's a really loyal coach. He plays some less talented players until he feels like his team is threatened - then he puts in the more talented players.

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He's never said this. He say's the opposite of this, everything is a competition and the best players will play.

You are the one who is claiming players are better, not Saban. This is only you showing your limited knowledge of the game/team. Just like Hall thought he could judge who deserved to be the starter over others...and then went on twitter to complain about it.

I mean honestly, I think Hall is more an example of Saban trying to give someone every chance in the world, even when he probably shouldn't. He was being loyal to Hall by allowing him to stay and have 2nd chances. And I've seen Saban be loyal to many players in this manner. Look at Ben Davis for example. Never started, never caused drama, stayed 4 years.

And I'll let you in on a secret. The #1 reason most freshman WR and RB do not start is because their blocking is not up to par and/or not knowing the playbook well enough.

If you are going to play WR at Alabama, you better be prepared to block and do it well. It doesn't matter how well you can catch the ball if you don't block because your presence on the field will allow the defense to cheat.

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Auburn also shut it down, yet no change was made. If that happened again……tua gone.

He couldn’t pass well in that game either, yet no change made. Frustrating for a backup and father to watch without a likely transfer.

Same exact thing applied to fields at uga. Didn’t matter. Studs don’t want to sit behind lesser players and will not do it 2 years in a row.

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Get back to me when you aren't just making shite up.

Willie. Student of Goebbels.

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Yeah, that's bullshite. Alabama typically has more true freshman starters than other teams. They also typically have the least amount of returning starters every year.

If the talent is there, they will play.

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Btw, on this topic right here. Alabama basically had 0 returning starters for WR. Mechie was about the closest thing to that, and then Williams came in and also won the starting position.

But every single starting job in the WR corp last year was earned and they were all 1st year starters. Those who started in front of Hall did so because they earned it.

That’s just not an intelligent take. No coach will sacrifice wins for personal reasons or dislike of a player. Also the difference between Tua and Smitty VD Hall is Hall was given the same chance, they took advantage Hall did not. Either way your point is entirely incorrect.

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“I told myself if I didn’t play in the last game, which was the national championship game, I would transfer out.”

You say he is lying. I believe him and have fields transfer as precedent. Very similar situations.

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Yes, Derrick Henry was even closer to transferring than Tua. It's safe to say with the modern transfer rule, Henry would've been gone for sure - Tua it's highly possible.

Players don't want to sit on the bench all year behind players that they're CLEARLY better than - imagine that. Alabama fans call this "toxic attitude" and "immaturity"