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re: Aggy has the biggest endowment in the SEC

Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:15 am to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:15 am to
I think you miss read my post
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:21 am to
watching midget porn.. answering in sequences.

If Del Conte isn't contractually unrealistic, yes.. they have a very legit shot at him.

Love or hate Texas, they are top 3 if not the largest brand in the game. That's an attractive opportunity for an AD, especially a guy recognized as one of the best.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80110 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:45 am to
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and Woodward's past?


You mean his past of landing Chris Petersen at Washington?

I don't know if it was you, but someone was stupid enough to say that Woodward hired Tyrone Willingham. He FIRED Willingham, hired Sarkisian, then hired Petersen when Sarkisian left.

I think Texas and Bill Byrne are a PERFECT match.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 11:46 am
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 1:34 pm to
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You mean his past of landing Chris Petersen at Washington?

I don't know if it was you, but someone was stupid enough to say that Woodward hired Tyrone Willingham. He FIRED Willingham, hired Sarkisian, then hired Petersen when Sarkisian left.



Oh the irony, I'm guessing you didn't click the link?

LINK
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
19943 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:27 pm to
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At least you’re being honest about it, your A.D. has been a shite fest since Dodds became senile and blew up the big 12 .

Without that idiot, there is a big 12 network that’s probably as nice and strong as the SEC network is now, and the big 12 is as strong as ever.

What an idiot, and y’all praised him for it at the time, now attendance is it an all time low, viewership is below the AAC, and most of your kick off’s aren’t on national TV and are at 11 AM


This.

DeLoss Dodds is probably 80% of the reason I can't bring myself to support Texas no matter what. I went there for an MBA after BSME at A&M. Got myself to the point where I would actually watch and root for Texas when they were not playing A&M.

Then that asshat came in crapping all over everything and making it personal. There is a reason high-performing professionals minimize the trash talk, unless everyone knows its all in good fun. His arrogance, insults, and condescension turned what was a reasonably respect-filled rivalry into pure bitterness. He was a caricature of what Texas fans are known for, and his sentiments became the de facto voice of their administration. They never walked it back. Screw 'em.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:31 pm to
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It all adds up to redneck rich and I wouldn't expect you rubes to comprehend it nor admit it.

Link? No.

Grammar? No.

Obsessed? Yes.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80110 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:36 pm to
I live in the Seattle Area. Anything by the Seattle Times needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Example: The headline says UW REGENTS ASSAIL AD. When you actually read the article, it's one disgruntled regent.

UW has been trying to do things on the cheap forever. The recent stadium renovation was the first time that stadium had been upgraded since before they shared the 1991 title with Miami.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16639 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:37 pm to
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I live in the Seattle Area


Home of the 12th Man
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7215 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:38 pm to
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You don’t hate Texas, you hate yourself. Texas is simply the constant reminder that your true ego cannot accept.

I love psycho-analysis on the interwebz.

While we’re at it, what shall we make of the fact that here you are — six years after aggy left you behind — continuously posting about aggy on a message board that has nothing to do with the University of Texas?

What does it mean?
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:39 pm to
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At least you’re being honest about it, your A.D. has been a shite fest since Dodds became senile and blew up the big 12 .

Without that idiot, there is a big 12 network that’s probably as nice and strong as the SEC network is now, and the big 12 is as strong as ever.

What an idiot, and y’all praised him for it at the time, now attendance is it an all time low, viewership is below the AAC, and most of your kick off’s aren’t on national TV and are at 11 AM



Whoever becomes the new A.D. will have their work cut out for them




Understandably I have a different take on Dodds, I'm good on his business decisions and willing/able to discuss.

The arrogance? Eh, unnecessary but get the results and maintain them & it's somebody else's issue more than mine as a fan. Rather he didn't, but a "min weight" topic.

Where I had issue with Dodds was the inevitable it seems... people at high levels of success start reading their own press and lose the war while basking in the glory of prior battles. Insert Saban as the antitheses of this and why I have so much respect for his success/longevity.

Dodds let the ADept get fat and protected his staff to the point where complacency took over. Augie and Mack were the perfect examples. Early 2000's Texas arguably had the best football and baseball programs over the decade or at least consensus top 5.

Both coaches were riding the "Lifetime Achievement" status as untouchables, when it was obvious their best days were behind them and not returning. Dodds foolishly let that run it's course into territories that demanded a long road of recovery. Huge mistake.

Did I like him? Never. Did I respect his vision and acumen? Absolutely. Do I hold him responsible for letting it all go south? Yup.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
16639 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:43 pm to
It's hard to fire coaches that have won a national championship.



Yet another thing Aggy just wouldn't understand.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80110 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:45 pm to
Dodds will forever be defined by two quotes:

The first one:



Took place right after Missouri beat Texas and won the Big 12 in both basketball and baseball, keeping the Longhorns out of the baseball tournament for the first time in forever in the process.

The second one:

"They have a sliver down the East side of Texas."

Was also ill-timed, since that particular area of Texas that borders Louisiana seems to be where the best defensive talent in the state comes from.

Oh, and let's not forget this gem:

This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 3:56 pm to
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Where I had issue with Dodds was the inevitable it seems... people at high levels of success start reading their own press and lose the war while basking in the glory of prior battles.


I think the problem was more that he kept fighting the same battle and didn't realize the enemy moved upfield.

He was charged with turning around the finances of the AD early on and he was very successful at that, as he created the richest AD in the country. But at the end of the 2000's the program had new challenges and didn't need the incremental revenue, but there he was putting his energy into a LHN deal that personified his philosophy on how athletic departments should be run.

If he would have used that influence to create a Big 12 Network instead the conference would probably be one of the top conferences in the sport today looking at what PAC teams it wanted to poach. Instead Dodds sunk the conference for 10% more annual AD revenue because he saw making more money as his top task.

All of that extra money at the end wasn't used to buy new facilities or hire top coaches, it was sucked up by a bloated department full of bureaucrats because Dodds preferred to win the external battles he knew how to fight (aka get more money) instead of use his influence to fight the internal battles Texas to this day needs someone to work through (like the whole double AD thing).

Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
9201 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:02 pm to
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BTW those empty seats are paid for. 

Everyone's empty seats are paid for. That's why there's wait lists. Aggies credit themselves for the dumbest shite.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 4:15 pm
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8532 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:10 pm to
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OldSchoolHorn

Damn bro, you know more about Aggy than me, and I'm an Aggy.

Obsession. It's not just a lame name for a cologne.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:20 pm to
that last one.. "If you win all the time..."

that's when I knew we were screwed.


You left off his best:

"We are the Joneses" That one cracked me up and I actually liked it.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

I think the problem was more that he kept fighting the same battle and didn't realize the enemy moved upfield.

He was charged with turning around the finances of the AD early on and he was very successful at that, as he created the richest AD in the country. But at the end of the 2000's the program had new challenges and didn't need the incremental revenue, but there he was putting his energy into a LHN deal that personified his philosophy on how athletic departments should be run.

If he would have used that influence to create a Big 12 Network instead the conference would probably be one of the top conferences in the sport today looking at what PAC teams it wanted to poach. Instead Dodds sunk the conference for 10% more annual AD revenue because he saw making more money as his top task.

All of that extra money at the end wasn't used to buy new facilities or hire top coaches, it was sucked up by a bloated department full of bureaucrats because Dodds preferred to win the external battles he knew how to fight (aka get more money) instead of use his influence to fight the internal battles Texas to this day needs someone to work through (like the whole double AD thing).



I'm a harsh Dodds critic, but I'm afraid you are very misinformed on what developments led to the LHN. It goes far beyond the short talks with Byrne.

I doubt anyone of us will set aside our personal fan interests to ever come to an agreement, but I know what I know and had close ties to parties involved during that time. To each their own, but that's my stance.

I'll say this much, how Nebraska didn't/doesn't get the grief of the B12 failures at the fan level blows my mind.

Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
Member since Nov 2014
3999 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:29 pm to
I'm obsessed with CFB, family affair and I'll leave it at that.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

I'm obsessed with CFB

*sigh*

Fine.
You can stay.
But mind your pints and quarts, sip.

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