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re: Aggies, let's get down to the nitty gritty. How good will aTm defense be
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:16 am to ColoradoAg03
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:16 am to ColoradoAg03
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That's a very bold statement.
Football has changed. A defense will never hold teams to an average of 200 yards of total offense like the best A&M defenses of old did - not anymore. Rules have changed. Nobody can expect their defense to do that.
If we can get a defense that is legitimately one of the best 10, or at least best 20, defenses in the country (that's what we need to have a true Wrecking Crew defense), then, given how Sumlin's teams can move the ball and score points, we'll be a NC contender.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 10:17 am
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:17 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Myles Garrett will be a beast. With the way A&M recruits it is only a matter of time before they are a factor every single year. Nice job Aggies
going to be some big recruiting battles going on in East Texas
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:18 am to LSU1NSEC
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going to be some big recruiting battles going on in East Texas
And over in LA.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:20 am to Hugh McElroy
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If we can get a defense that is legitimately one of the best 10, or at least best 20, defenses in the country (that's what we need to have a true Wrecking Crew defense), then, given how Sumlin's teams can move the ball and score points, we'll be a NC contender.
We heard the exact same thing last year and your defense actually got worse.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:27 am to Stonehog
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We heard the exact same thing last year and your defense actually got worse.
I don't think any of us expected to have a great defense last year.
I will admit last year did push back my expectations for a top 40 defense from next season to the one after next. I hope whatever QB starts puts up Case numbers.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:27 am to Stonehog
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We heard the exact same thing last year and your defense actually got worse.
True, we didn't return so many young starters. We didn't fully appreciate the good job done by the people we lost two years ago, nor how hard of a time the young guys were going to have adjusting. We lost five guys in our starting front seven, and the guys we expected to replace them couldn't get the job done. We had to go to the true freshmen, and not many true freshmen are ready.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:32 am to Maroon Flash
From the games I watched talent wasn't an issue, it was the coaching and fundamentals. Poor form, poor tackling, poor scheme, just a disaster.
They need a new defensive staff
They need a new defensive staff
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:39 am to goldennugget
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From the games I watched talent wasn't an issue, it was the coaching and fundamentals. Poor form, poor tackling, poor scheme, just a disaster.
They need a new defensive staff
Yes, but everybody knows that you're almost clinical in your hatred of A&M. You can't watch objectively.
Snyder over-performed the year before, so I don't think it is the staff. I really think the older guys just sucked, and the younger guys weren't ready.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:42 am to Stonehog
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We heard the exact same thing last year and your defense actually got worse.
I think that statement will probably be true every year going forward. I don't think anyone has much doubt that Sumlin can keep stacking elite offensive classes together every year. As long as the defense can build depth every year and be a respectable unit, why wouldn't they be in the hunt every year?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:50 am to Stonehog
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We heard the exact same thing last year and your defense actually got worse.
Surely you don't want to get into a discussion about statements that didn't come true after last seasons debacle in Arkansas now do you?
Very few Ags were under any impression that our defense would be close to top 10 or top 20. Nothing could be further from the truth. Anyone that follows the Ags knew we were very young and had no depth. Game plan was always to outscore people.
Come on man.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:55 am to LSU1NSEC
Garrett, Mack, Jefferson and Sheffielf would all be five star recruits. Mix that in with guys Golden and Harvey which were national top 100 guys that might have 5 star measurables, if all our talent pans out, easily a top 10 defense. But nothing ever completely pans out. But we are recruiting defensive guys at the top level so at this point we have no reason to be anything but optimistic.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:24 am to TeLeFaWx
As has been explained previously. Sherman whiffed on defensive recruiting.
Can everyone agree that defense is predicated on D-Line play?
If the D-Line is good, the rest of the defense has less pressure on it?
If we can agree, good. Now go look at the D-Line recruits that Sumlin has lined up with these 2 classes. Aggies are pleased with the D-Line talent coming in.
So, we will have fresh and sophs that look to be talented. Most will see the field next year. We are building depth and experience.
If the Defense doesn't improve in the next 2 years, then there is an issue.
Can everyone agree that defense is predicated on D-Line play?
If the D-Line is good, the rest of the defense has less pressure on it?
If we can agree, good. Now go look at the D-Line recruits that Sumlin has lined up with these 2 classes. Aggies are pleased with the D-Line talent coming in.
So, we will have fresh and sophs that look to be talented. Most will see the field next year. We are building depth and experience.
If the Defense doesn't improve in the next 2 years, then there is an issue.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:31 am to Tridentds
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Very few Ags were under any impression that our defense would be close to top 10 or top 20. Nothing could be further from the truth
That's not what I said. Last offseason all we heard was if the defense could get better, aggy would be in the national title hunt. Your defense got worse.
One year later, aggy is saying the exact same thing. Why should anyone believe that Sumlin can field a good defense when he's never done it in his career?
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:36 am to Stonehog
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One year later, aggy is saying the exact same thing. Why should anyone believe that Sumlin can field a good defense when he's never done it in his career?
Recruiting? He's never recruited this well either. Myles Garrett is a 5 star. When is the last time Texas A&M even had a 5 star defensive player on its roster?
shite. I always forget I'm talking to Arkansas fans about five stars when they probably think of a 5th star as a yeti or a unicorn. You see. Talent(something Bielema will never get) is something you need to be elite. Texas A&M is getting it.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:39 am to Stonehog
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Last offseason all we heard was if the defense could get better, aggy would be in the national title hunt.
Most important word highlighted for you.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:42 am to Projectpat
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Most important word highlighted for you.
Ok. I'm not arguing that you had a terrible defense. Just that you guys said the same thing last year. I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:45 am to TeLeFaWx
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You see. Talent(something Bielema will never get) is something you need to be elite. Texas A&M is getting it.
Sumlin had superior talent while at Houston thanks to Bryles, yet could never win the weak CUSA.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:51 am to DaleDenton
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Sumlin had superior talent while at Houston thanks to Bryles, yet could never win the weak CUSA.
Houston never had the top recruiting classes under Briles... Sumlin's worst recruiting class at U of H was better than Art's best.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:54 am to TeLeFaWx
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Houston never had the top recruiting classes under Briles... Sumlin's worst recruiting class at U of H was better than Art's best.
That's not what I said.
He did have more talent than the majority of the CUSA teams he was facing, NFL QB, WRs, etc, his Houston team is still within the last 5 wins or so for Southern Miss's program.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:56 am to DaleDenton
Okay, the Coaches that held Oklahoma to 13 in the Cotton Bowl forgot how to Coach in the 2013 offseason.
The Aggies are rid of the one Coach I had a problem with which was the DB Coach.
Expect to see a steady improvement on D over the next two seasons.
The Aggies are rid of the one Coach I had a problem with which was the DB Coach.
Expect to see a steady improvement on D over the next two seasons.
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