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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:38 pm to
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How did A&M cheat? Dickerson did not go to school at A&M. Had he gone to A&M, that would have been cheating.
Because they tried to bribe him? I would think that's pretty self-explanatory

Your sentiment is like saying "I know I stole the answer key, but I didn't really cheat on the test because I only got a C- instead of an A"
Posted by cjohn
Georgia
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:38 pm to
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Because Texas, not a&m, was the team in the 80s and 90s that was banned by the NCAA from bowl games and television?




Fun trivia. Texas was actually placed on probation by the NCAA more times than A&M in the 80s. Go look it up.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:38 pm to
The Aggies who fought in World War II had real honor. The more recent generations of Aggies try to leech off of that legacy, but have betrayed it by acting so dishonorably.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:39 pm to
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Fun trivia. Texas was actually placed on probation by the NCAA more times than A&M in the 80s. Go look it up.
Ok. And the actual sanctions (you know, the thing that I actually brought up)?

Then again, every victory Texas has prior to 1975 is completely and totally invalidated because kids would rather go sit the bench at Texas than start for A&M due to lack of scholarship limits, right?
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:41 pm to
texag7

Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:42 pm to
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Then again, every victory Texas has prior to 1975 is completely and totally invalidated because kids would rather go sit the bench at Texas than start for A&M due to lack of scholarship limits, right?



I knew that you would come around to the truth eventually.
Posted by Germantiger001
Southeast LA
Member since Jun 2016
833 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:44 pm to
Everyone was paying players. Who cares
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:47 pm to
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I knew that you would come around to the truth eventually.
Some call it truth. Others who have actually seen their team win literally anything call it a pathetic excuse due to shame from consistent failure
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5793 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:48 pm to
9/10/1988
The National Collegiate Athletic Assn. placed Texas A&M; on probation for two years and declared it ineligible for bowl competition this season, and the Southwest Conference said that the Aggies could not compete for the league football championship because of major recruiting violations.

According to the NCAA Friday, Texas A&M; committed 16 violations and failed to “exercise appropriate institutional control” over its athletic department. Texas A&M; had been favored to win a fourth consecutive football title this year.

“I’m responsible,” said Jackie Sherrill, Texas A&M;'s coach and athletic director. “It’s my job. I’m responsible for the program and to make sure things are done correctly.”

Sherrill acknowledged that Texas A&M; might have received a lighter penalty if he had suspended quarterback Kevin Murray, the apparent source of two of the most serious violations.

But aggy


This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 3:06 pm
Posted by aTm boy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:02 pm to
Who would believe Eric Dickerson? We already know he is a liar. If he said he would go to A&M for a car and he does not go then he is not someone I would trust.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:06 pm to
It's totally a coincidence that Charles Allen Wright was a Texas Law Prof who ran the NCAA Infractions committee as well. I mean he understood the nuances that when Texas violated the rules they didn't really mean it and deserved a hand slap but when other SWC schools did they needed to come down like a hammer and learn their place. They finally got him to officially step down but he had his hands deep in all of the investigations of the '80s and who was on the committee. The fact he was a hard core partisan Texas fan that was known for being a vindictive arse to anyone who took a law class from him also was just coincidence, he could separate all of that to be fair to everyone else, especially Texas' rivals.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5793 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:11 pm to
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It's totally a coincidence that


So the NCAA cheated so that it would falsely charge aggy with cheating so that Texas could cheat.

Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:12 pm to
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It's totally a coincidence that Charles Allen Wright was a Texas Law Prof who ran the NCAA Infractions committee as well. I mean he understood the nuances that when Texas violated the rules they didn't really mean it and deserved a hand slap but when other SWC schools did they needed to come down like a hammer and learn their place. They finally got him to officially step down but he had his hands deep in all of the investigations of the '80s and who was on the committee. The fact he was a hard core partisan Texas fan that was known for being a vindictive arse to anyone who took a law class from him also was just coincidence, he could separate all of that to be fair to everyone else, especially Texas' rivals.


Wow. Have to say, Texas was right when they told us about the Aggies.
Posted by RumHam
Huntsville
Member since Jun 2021
3687 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 3:35 pm to
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But I wasn’t into A&M. First, I didn’t like their uniforms. That was a big factor for me as an 18-year-old who wanted to look cool. Second, the student body was about two-thirds male. When I visited, it seemed like there were no girls, just a bunch of dudes from the school’s Corps of Cadets in military uniforms. They didn’t even have cheerleaders; they had male “yell leaders.” It just wasn’t what I was envisioning for my college experience.


he’d fit right in on the board
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:06 pm to
Texas ran the infractions committee for all intents and purposes in the '70s through the '80s. It wasn't just against A&M, if you recall SMU got the death penalty and virtually every SWC team was on probation during that time. The punishments handed out were also very uneven.

Was what it was, everyone was cheating and they just were pissed we kicking the shite out of them. I certainly don't claim A&M was innocent but it's laughable to think Texas and the other SWC schools weren't doing the exact same thing if not worse.
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19280 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:17 pm to
If I am not wrong, wasn't there only 2 conference schools that weren't placed on probation back during that era? And Houston, an independent, was considered an outlaw school, to the extent that rep kept them out of the SWC? Of course cheating was everywhere, in every conference, but SMU was the first to ever get the death penalty, which gutted the program ongoing. It's president was even seriously involved.
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
3437 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:24 pm to
Houston was in the SWC for awhile. Maybe starting in the late '70's. They were the last school to join. During my years at A&M, we played "Cougar High" every year.

SMU football was actually the the third to get the death penalty. Kentucky basketball got it back in the '50's and SW Louisanna basketball got it in the '70's.
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 4:28 pm
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:24 pm to
Houston was in the SWC and had 4 Championships, though all were shared. They were also put on probation. I think Arkansas and maybe Rice were the 2 that escaped, Arkansas mainly because anyone that ratted on them would likely end up at the bottom of a lake.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22743 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:37 pm to
Arkansas and Rice were the only schools in the SWC during that time that were never put on probation.

If Arkansas was even doing anything (which they probably weren't doing much anyway because of how cheap eveyone was around the program back then), nobody wanted to drive up that pig trail into the mountains to try to investigate them. As for Rice... Well... They're Rice. They made Vandy look like Alabama.

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