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re: "After Destroying Two Leagues & Triggering Conference Realignment, Texas Meets Its Match"

Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17307 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Yes it’ll be much better in the SEC. Instead of the refs favoring Texas, they’ll favor Alabama.

Yep, and we already got a taste of that medicine on the safety play..
oh wait, that was a Texas biased Big 12 crew? Crazy how that works..
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
8863 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:38 pm to
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the LHN destroyed the PAC..

False. The LHN had nothing to do with the Pac's demise. It's demise can be laid at Larry Scott's feet.
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
4057 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:41 pm to
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There was clearly 1 second left when the ball hit out of bounds.. you bozo


I think his point was this occurred before there was video replay. Officials were told what to do. Mac Brown came out and literally instructed them as to what to do and they did it.

Technically you’re right. There was one second left but there’s no way to tell that with the naked eye in real time.

And the call wasn’t made by a ref. It was made by the Texas coach.

That’s the point.
Posted by Born2rock
Member since Oct 2022
1145 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:44 pm to
Apparently, you can’t make this shite up…..oh wait…..I guess you can!
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:44 pm to
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I think his point was this occurred before there was video replay.


Lol stop posting
Posted by stang14
Member since Nov 2019
1170 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:47 pm to
Keep the baseball tournament in Hoover. Texas folks have the money to travel!
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35235 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:51 pm to
Then why do Mizzy/Aggy poster keep bitching about the past?


This is the sec and our nuts are huge. The swc and b12 are sallies that got bullied……Texas.
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3669 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 1:57 pm to
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I've been waiting for a writer -- any writer -- to spell out the truth in a rather short and concise manner about how Texas threw its weight around to corrupt the old SWC and the Big 12 Conference.


Every school looks to protect its interests and does what it needs to do to improve its situation when necessary.

Did Texas destroy the SWC? No, as TV money became a bigger and bigger deal, it became obvious to everyone with a brain that you couldn't have a conference with all of the members in one state.

Did Texas destroy the Big 12? No, the Big 12 still exists.

Wasn't the LHN a slap in the face of the other Big 12 members? No, every member voted to retain their 3rd tier rights and to have the ability to start their own network. Texas tried to form a Big 12 conference network. The other members refused. Texas tried to start a network with A&M. The aggies refused. ESPN offered Texas crazy, unexpected money for the LHN so that Texas wouldn't join the Pac and became a Fox property. Any school would have taken that deal.

By the way, no school made more noise about the LHN than Mizzou. They were worried that Texas would control a network that would play high school highlights and this would give Texas an unfair recruiting advantage. Of course, the LHN never played high school football highlights. However, Mizzou is the only school in the country with a major network affiliate (NBC) on its campus and for many years, that NBC affiliate has shown high school football highlights of players being recruited by Mizzou.
Posted by Summer of Jimbo
Amateur Statistician
Member since Oct 2022
2265 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by BigSneezy
Member since Nov 2020
4057 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:08 pm to
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Every school looks to protect its interests and does what it needs to do to improve its situation when necessary. Did Texas destroy the SWC? No, as TV money became a bigger and bigger deal, it became obvious to everyone with a brain that you couldn't have a conference with all of the members in one state. Did Texas destroy the Big 12? No, the Big 12 still exists. Wasn't the LHN a slap in the face of the other Big 12 members? No, every member voted to retain their 3rd tier rights and to have the ability to start their own network. Texas tried to form a Big 12 conference network. The other members refused. Texas tried to start a network with A&M. The aggies refused. ESPN offered Texas crazy, unexpected money for the LHN so that Texas wouldn't join the Pac and became a Fox property. Any school would have taken that deal. By the way, no school made more noise about the LHN than Mizzou. They were worried that Texas would control a network that would play high school highlights and this would give Texas an unfair recruiting advantage. Of course, the LHN never played high school football highlights. However, Mizzou is the only school in the country with a major network affiliate (NBC) on its campus and for many years, that NBC affiliate has shown high school football highlights of players being recruited by Mizzou.


By your own admission Texas has aligned and used whatever it could to gain advantage over others in their league. The point most are trying to get you to acknowledge is that now, being in a legitimate conference, you don’t have the ability to sway conference decisions as you’ve had in the past. Without arguing about the specifics of what went down, that’s the general point.


You would have clearly preferred to stay in a weaker conference with an easier path to a title with the same money.

Pretending that’s not the case and that you’ve always wanted to be in the SEC is not factual.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
1436 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:12 pm to
you forgot to add that you don't care about us

One thing no aggie alive will ever admit but is true is the fact that THEY themselves voted for individual tier 3 tv rights when the conference was formed. We got a deal and they didn't and they pitched a fit and conveniently forgot about this little fact.
Truth is, When the Big 12 was created, Nebraska, OU, Texas, and Texas A&M (as the largest brands) demanded unequal revenue sharing, where they retained larger portion of the conference TV revenue. The other eight schools accepted unequal revenue sharing, but not without complaint. This was contentious at the time, as most conferences (which had existed for decades longer than the Big 12) had equal revenue sharing of TV rights.

Aggies won't respond to this because it means admitting that they are partially responsible for that conference blowing up. I've yet to see a single ag admit it.
This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:15 pm to
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By your own admission Texas has aligned and used whatever it could to gain advantage over others in their league.


The only transgression that falls into this bucket is Longhorn Network. And your school would've taken the same deal in a heart beat, had ESPN offered it to you. Every school would have.

quote:

Pretending that’s not the case and that you’ve always wanted to be in the SEC is not factual.


Who's pretending Texas always wanted to be in the SEC?
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
1436 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:18 pm to
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The only transgression that falls into this bucket is Longhorn Network. And your school would've taken the same deal in a heart beat, had ESPN offered it to you. Every school would have.


You'll never meet a single ag that will admit that...they want us to believe they wouldn't..even though they voted for unequal revenue sharing. It's easier to just blame us for it all
Posted by SchizoAg
Member since Mar 2016
106 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:25 pm to
Wishful thinking. Texas will destroy this league like the others. There is no cure for cancer.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
1436 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Wishful thinking. Texas will destroy this league like the others. There is no cure for cancer.


Why won't you address the point I, and others, have made.

YOUR school voted to gain unequal revenue AND tier 3 rights. YOU are partially responsible for the conference blowing up. Come on. Address it. Be the first

Truth is, you would have accepted that network offer in a heartbeat and you know it. Any other response is comically dishonest.

Deloss was an arrogant dick and I couldn't stand the guy....but the Ags are not blameless in all this. Nor is Oklahoma and Nebraska. The only difference is Oklahoma had the balls to stick around while 2 of the 4 school who voted for this ran away when they didn't get one.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
5788 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:37 pm to
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YOUR school voted to gain unequal revenue AND tier 3 rights.
Say that again for the folks in the back…
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
1436 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:43 pm to
Ags won't respond

Aggie code of honor:

An Aggie does not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate those who do.

I guess it's a loophole. If they don't answer they don't have to lie
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
12910 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:47 pm to
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I think his point was this occurred before there was video replay. Officials were told what to do. Mac Brown came out and literally instructed them as to what to do and they did it.


It's youtube. You can do your own video replay.


So I did...




This video is paused after the ball hit the ground. You can clearly see the Nebraska DB standing still after the ball hit the ground. You can see the texsa player starting to walk back to his team because the play was over. You can see whornlets in the background in their favorite surrender cobra position they commonly display in Dallas. You can see some Nerbrasky! fans clapping on the left assuming victory.

But most importantly, you can very clearly see there's 1 second on the clock.

The ABC announcers even agreed. It's on the video.

This post was edited on 6/11/24 at 2:52 pm
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
3669 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:53 pm to
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you don’t have the ability to sway conference decisions as you’ve had in the past.


This is a nonsensical narrative.

In the Big 12, there was one rebel. That was Nebraska. They didn't want the Big 12 HQ and title game in the state of Texas (which was really stupid, because if they had more exposure in Texas and got more Texas talent, their last winning season wouldn't be 2016). Nebraska also wanted partial qualifiers, because bringing in criminals who couldn't read was the foundation of Tom Osborne's success.

On every issue, every time, every other Big 12 member (this includes A&M) ALWAYS voted exactly the same as Texas. This includes 3rd tier rights, individual networks...EVERYTHING.

Texas didn't swing around its big dick and force things on other members. There was always a strong consensus on every item.

A&M and Mizzou and the other schools that haven't done anything that matters in our lifetimes need to drop this 'Texas is a Boogeyman' false narrative and accept some individual responsibility.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
1436 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 2:54 pm to
Good try sooner but "texas cheated" is a much better story for ags and huskers. it's become legend at this point. Let them have their fun. It matters not one bit.
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