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About the bowl games, Kirby is wrong in saying the 12 team playoff won't fix it....

Posted on 12/31/23 at 6:59 am
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8994 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 6:59 am
No one is gonna care that no. 13 got dragged by no. 20 because no. 13s starters opted out.

For more than a decade now, many bowls are sparsely attended. But they are still profitable because they get substantially higher TV ratings than what ESPN would regularly air in that time slot if they weren't played. There was an article posted about this just before the playoff came to be with people saying the playoff would end interest in them. The article just pointed out that it wouldn't end interest and that the ad revenue generated by higher TV ratings would keep them going. I assume that's still true.

And before you tell me how bad the ratings are for these bowl games, again I'm saying that they generate higher ratings that what ESPN would normally air. Therefore they can charge more money for ads. No one is gonna care about this once we start going to 12 unless the kids actually start opting out of legit games.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 7:00 am
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1267 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:00 am to
It’s less about that and more about that and more about no one should be getting dragged because starters opt out- the principle of the matter.

He felt bad for the kids on the sideline, not the espn executives.

Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8994 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:05 am to
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It’s less about that and more about that and more about no one should be getting dragged because starters opt out- the principle of the matter.

He felt bad for the kids on the sideline, not the espn executives.



I don't disagree with this, but I'm just saying no one is gonna care outside of the playoff now. This game was focused on because of FSU getting left out. Then they got matched up with arguably the team that could make them look worse than anyone else.

The 12 team playoff will have teams with two or three losses arguing about getting in . No one is gonna think those teams can win it. And just based on what we've seen to date, higly unlikely such a team would win it.

The problem, and everyone should've known this was gonna happen at some point, is that you had an undefeated conference champ left out. That can't happen anymore.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 7:07 am
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4557 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:15 am to
#13 will have an argument but nobody outside their fanbase will care. This year it's LSU at 9-3. Who cares?
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
8994 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:23 am to
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#13 will have an argument but nobody outside their fanbase will care. This year it's LSU at 9-3. Who cares?


Yeah. The problem is that once you go that far down you are talking about a team who has little chance to win four games to finish it off. An upset in the first round might happen, but unlikely they'll be able to do it four times.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5613 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:30 am to
12 teams doesn't really fix anything. This year was an anomaly with so many deserving teams in the top 8. Usually you have 2 teams clearly better than everyone else, a third team that's separated itself and 2 or 3 more teams that could go in at 4. Usually resulting in 2 blowout semifinals. With 12 you will get 4-6 more blowouts and still end up with the 2 teams you likely would have gotten any way. Am I a little excited to see it? Sure. Is Georgia the last time I want to play again this year? If I m being honest, you bet your arse.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13163 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:40 am to
If they do it right and integrate the bowl games with the 12 team playoff games, then I can see some of the lesser bowl games having more attendance and viewership.
Think about it: with 12 teams, that's a lot of playoff games even if the top 4 get a bye in the first round.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1267 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:43 am to
It makes every game for the G5 matter. Their top ranked conference champion will go to the playoffs.

Bowl games suddenly really matter because of team/conference perception. You’re playing for a possible playoff berth next season.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by Topan
Member since Dec 2009
249 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:31 am to
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Bowl games suddenly really matter because of team/conference perception. You’re playing for a possible playoff berth next season.

How is that possibly relevant to the following year?
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1267 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:49 am to
Pre season rankings and conference perception when judging the “top ranked” g5

The atmosphere in the g5 is going to be the same as it was for the (previously) p5 in the BCS era
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9419 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:07 am to
12 team playoff means it will be nearly if not always 12 big 10 and sec teams making the playoff.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22223 posts
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:08 am to
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12 team playoff means it will be nearly if not always 12 big 10 and sec teams making the playoff.


New structure guarantees at least 1 G5, the ACC Champ, and Big 12 champ.

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