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A&M and Arkansas both had 5-3 post season records ....
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:54 pm
Which program had the better baseball season overall?
Worded differently, which was the superior program this baseball season, overall, taking into account the post-season as well?
Arkansas (40-23) lost to Virginia and Miami in Omaha ... but they beat Oral Roberts, Okie State, St. Johns and #8 national seed Mizzou St x2 ... to get to Omaha.
A&M (50-14) beat TxSo, Cal x2, (also lost to Cal x1), beat Coastal Carolina before losing 2 of 3 to a very good #7 nationally-seeded TCU team in the super finals.
Which was the more accomplished program this year.
I'm not trolling, only looking for honest perspectives here to find-out what's more important, this-or-that. And this season these two programs are perfect examples of what I'm wondering about.
Worded differently, which was the superior program this baseball season, overall, taking into account the post-season as well?
Arkansas (40-23) lost to Virginia and Miami in Omaha ... but they beat Oral Roberts, Okie State, St. Johns and #8 national seed Mizzou St x2 ... to get to Omaha.
A&M (50-14) beat TxSo, Cal x2, (also lost to Cal x1), beat Coastal Carolina before losing 2 of 3 to a very good #7 nationally-seeded TCU team in the super finals.
Which was the more accomplished program this year.
I'm not trolling, only looking for honest perspectives here to find-out what's more important, this-or-that. And this season these two programs are perfect examples of what I'm wondering about.
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:57 pm to scrooster
This year? Arkansas, they made it to Omaha
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:59 pm to scrooster
I posed the same question on TexAgs. Most people said Ark because Omaha is Omaha. A&M ended up with like 10 more wins though. I think Ark just ended up with the better draw in the postseason. The only faced OSU once and they got to host MSU. IMO playing Cal 3x and CC 1 was much more difficult than @OSU and whoever else. Then @TCU > MSU. But thats is just the luck of the draw.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:59 pm to scrooster
I'd rather have Arkansas's year.
Through a technicality, they were able to host a Super Regional, and they made it to Omaha.
Through a technicality, they were able to host a Super Regional, and they made it to Omaha.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:59 pm to scrooster
Well, part of it is this:
A&M started 25-0 and finished 25-14 down the stretch.
Arkansas started 13-13 and finished 27-10 down the stretch.
I think it is easy to say that Arkansas had the better overall season because they exceeded expectations and made Omaha. They finished fairly strong.
A&M has to be disappointed. They were ranked #1 at one time before stumbling to end their campaign short of the CWS.
A&M started 25-0 and finished 25-14 down the stretch.
Arkansas started 13-13 and finished 27-10 down the stretch.
I think it is easy to say that Arkansas had the better overall season because they exceeded expectations and made Omaha. They finished fairly strong.
A&M has to be disappointed. They were ranked #1 at one time before stumbling to end their campaign short of the CWS.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:00 pm to scrooster
The Ags would have made it to Omaha in Arkansas' position. It's silly to think that the 8 best teams are in Omaha.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:01 pm to Killean
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A&M has to be disappointed. They were ranked #1 at one time before stumbling to end their campaign short of the CWS.
Yes and no. If when A&M was #1 is your starting point, then yes. If we look preseason with no major expectations and our best pitcher with a torn ACl and another about the need Tommy John in a few weeks then we easily exceeded expectations.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:03 pm to Farmer1906
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I think Ark just ended up with the better draw in the postseason
I would say this is a fact.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:15 pm to scrooster
Arkansas got their stuff pushed in by a weak out of conference schedule.
A&M did far more in the regular season without their 2 best pitchers.
But Omaha 2 and done is still > no Omaha
A&M did far more in the regular season without their 2 best pitchers.
But Omaha 2 and done is still > no Omaha
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:18 pm to Farmer1906
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Yes and no. If when A&M was #1 is your starting point, then yes. If we look preseason with no major expectations and our best pitcher with a torn ACl and another about the need Tommy John in a few weeks then we easily exceeded expectations.
This. If you had told us when Stubblefield went down where we would end up most would be pretty surprised I think. We definitely exceeded preseason expectations.
That said if you are asking me as a fan which I would rather have, it's Arkansas' season with the Omaha appearance
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:18 pm to scrooster
If you are one of the last 8 standing, you have the better season overall no matter what went on in the regular season.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:20 pm to DC RaiseHerBack
Agreed
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:23 pm to GeorgeReymond
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This year? Arkansas, they made it to Omaha
Please Lord let USCe make it to Omaha next year so we don't have to have these DUH moments next year in every post season baseball thread
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:24 pm to SwaggerCopter
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It's silly to think that the 8 best teams are in Omaha.
and the final four is a scam too
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:28 pm to GeorgeReymond
Ark because they made Omaha although they played at home for super regional due to quirk
A&M at home would have beat TCU
A&M started out hot, cooled down towards the end but overall a good season that should have ended in Omaha
Ark has pretty much consensus player of the year, should win Golden Spikes award, Van Horn starting to become that coach that will never get over the hump and win the damn thing, he's been there enough
Started out slow which weather was pretty brutal early this year for this northern team but came on strong at the end
A&M at home would have beat TCU
A&M started out hot, cooled down towards the end but overall a good season that should have ended in Omaha
Ark has pretty much consensus player of the year, should win Golden Spikes award, Van Horn starting to become that coach that will never get over the hump and win the damn thing, he's been there enough
Started out slow which weather was pretty brutal early this year for this northern team but came on strong at the end
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:31 pm to scrooster
The bottom line is pretty similar for both teams, but Arkansas did get one level deeper in the playoffs--perhaps it was due, in part, to catching a break on the super regional location, but breaks are what you make of them. Just looking at one season in a vacuum, I don't know how you couldn't pick making Omaha over coming up just short.
The one caveat to that conclusion would be that, not all Omaha season are alike. Look at a school like Texas Tech, that was basically gifted a trip to Omaha last year. They are back wallowing in mediocrity this year. I wouldn't compare their Omaha qualification last year to Arkanasas' this year (the Hogs are legit), but there are times when making it to Omaha is more a matter of luck than accomplishment.
The one caveat to that conclusion would be that, not all Omaha season are alike. Look at a school like Texas Tech, that was basically gifted a trip to Omaha last year. They are back wallowing in mediocrity this year. I wouldn't compare their Omaha qualification last year to Arkanasas' this year (the Hogs are legit), but there are times when making it to Omaha is more a matter of luck than accomplishment.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:32 pm to scrooster
Arkansas, they made it to Omaha.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:41 pm to CayceCock13
You guys will try to argue about everything.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:45 pm to scrooster
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I'm not trolling, only looking for honest perspectives here to find-out what's more important, this-or-that.
I've found that -- and it's mostly a perspective thing, maybe conservation of energy, too -- that this is almost always more important than that.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 2:47 pm to oman
#LilBroFight!
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