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re: A UGa Win and Alabama still making the Playoffs: Chaos for the P5 Conferences

Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:58 am to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:58 am to
End of the Committee. Which I think would a good thing.
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:58 am to
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If Alabama loses on Saturday, they are still objectively better than OU and O$U

They might not be seen as THE best, but they are still top 4 and it's not even debatable.


I think you are right but the bottom line is that they lost to a team as if they were in an 8 team playoff. They should be out. But that isn't how the rules are.

Posted by MSHawg1
Bad-assistan
Member since Jun 2018
5046 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:59 am to
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If my team doesn't win a neutral site game against another team in December, then how can I say I'm the best team in the country one month later?

Alabama's Iron Bowl loss last season proves this to be wrong. It's OK, DsigracdBuckeye. The Big-10 sucks but it isn't Ohio State's fault......just kidding. Don't lose to Purdue by 29. It's all your fault.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:59 am to
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You sound like an auburn fan


That probably made sense to you in your head.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:00 am to
You basically repeated their posts for about 2 months after the SECCG last year.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:00 am to
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It doesn't have to be a rule.
I never said it did.


Then what are you babbling about? The Committee is tasked with putting in the 4 best teams. Period. I think they have done a pretty good job so far in the first 4 years.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:01 am to
They have.

Bama didn't lose the CCG last season either.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:03 am to
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Bama didn't lose the CCG last season either.


Correct. Clemson and Georgia won theirs. What did that get them?

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:04 am to
In the playoffs.

If uga didn't win the CCG, we wouldn't have been in the playoffs
Posted by uga471434
Woodstock
Member since May 2018
452 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:05 am to
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I think you are right but the bottom line is that they lost to a team as if they were in an 8 team playoff. They should be out. But that isn't how the rules are.


Oh they most certainly wouldn't deserve to be in it, I agree. But the committee covered its own arse when they say "4 best"
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:06 am to
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If uga didn't win the CCG, we wouldn't have been in the playoffs


You seem to be having a hard time understanding this. The fact that you won the SEC CG last year was meaningless. It didn't matter. Same goes for Clemson. Winning the conference didn't help you win the National Championship.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:07 am to
If UGA didn't win the CCG last season, would we have been on the playoffs?
Posted by HottyToddyButGoTiger
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2018
38 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:07 am to
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Does anyone think that 3 Power 5 Conference Commissioners will sit around watching the playoffs with no representation without calling for expansion should this occur?

I don't think when the playoff's was designed that such a scenario could actually happen but here we are.


The thing is that the playoffs are meant for the 4 best teams. If the 4 best teams from top to bottom just happens to be 2 teams from the same P5 conference, then 2 teams from one conference should be in the playoff. per say. Georgia beats Bama and Bama drops to number 4, Georgia moves to 2, Clemson goes to 1, and ND stays at 3. This creates for a good playoff setup. Clemson vs Bama and Georgia vs ND. First round
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:08 am to
If Bama was in the CCG last year and lost, would you have been in the playoffs?
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:08 am to
Doesn't matter.

Bama wins saturday by 21+

Well, do you think I care?
I really don't. Roll Damn Tide.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:10 am to
Honest question.

Do you want to know why Bama won't get in if you lose the CCG?
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:11 am to
The BCS lasted for 16 years and you had only 2 spots, conferences were left out all the time.

This sense of entitlement is ridiculous.

They get left out because they aren't national championship caliber. They can get mad about it.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:13 am to
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Will the Gump mulligan extend to the SEC championship game as well?


Why is Alabama making the playoffs with a loss an issue? Most of the top 4 has a loss by the end of the year.

We haven't had an undefeated national champion since 2013.


Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:13 am to
The "rule" for four teams should be simple:

Every conference (no power five limitation) decides its champion. The Committee decides which of the conference champions should be in the playoffs.

For 8 teams the Committee should pick five conference champions and three at large.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15109 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:14 am to
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I think you are right but the bottom line is that they lost to a team as if they were in an 8 team playoff.

But it is not an 8 team playoff, it's a 4 team playoff. You can't pretend it's an 8 team playoff when it's not. The only reason conference championships are played are to determine conference champions, not national champions. Nor are conference championship games first round games in the playoff.

Now with that said, I personally think they should go to an 8 game playoff. But until they do I believe the 4 best teams, regardless of conference champions, should be in the playoffs. That is the parameter that was set when the playoff was started, and that is what it should be. When it goes to an 8 team playoff, then you can have conference champs get 5 of those 8, and it would still allow a team that is one of the 4 best that doesn't win a conference championship get in.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 9:16 am
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