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re: A move in the right direction for college football. Pay the athletes directly and make....

Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:23 pm to
Posted by Florida_Man1981
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:23 pm to
Yay shitty pro sport where everyone transfers every year.
Posted by ouflak
Manchester, England
Member since Jul 2021
572 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:33 am to
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NFL, NBA, MLB all have salary caps.


Those are private organizations that have decided to become union shops, and therefore have a collective bargaining agreement. This settlement is the first time U.S. history that such an agreement has simply been put into place for a collective of people, merely by the decision of a federal judge. And it's the first time that collective bargaining agreement has put into place that automaticaly includes those at federally funded instituions. There is no precedent for this. And if this stands as-is, then you can bet the big corporations will soon be scrambling to find a judge that will do the same for them - even in non-unionized industries, and just dispense with that 'union' nonsense altogether.

This would save them billions by being able to just have third party, that they themselves are paying, decide whatever pay scales makes them the most profits that year. We'll see....
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2065 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:42 am to
My favorite part is how FCS has to chip in for FBS athletes.

Haha
Posted by ouflak
Manchester, England
Member since Jul 2021
572 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 4:43 am to
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It has NEVER been illegal to do commercials or sell autographs. It was against the NCAA’s selectively enforced rules, but never illegal.



bullshite. Ask James Gatto, Merl Code, and Christian Dawkins.


Just for clarity here, Code and Dawkins were convicted of fraud, not for doing - or paying someone to do, autographs or commercials, which is ofcourse completely legal. Gatto was convicted of bribery, again not anything to do with commercials or autographs.

What's very strange about these cases is that the accused were not allowed to call in exonerating witnesses (athletic directors and coaches from the schools involved). Without the ability to mount a proper defense, their legal strategy had no hope.
This post was edited on 6/8/25 at 4:45 am
Posted by ouflak
Manchester, England
Member since Jul 2021
572 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 6:54 am to
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Now as an employee or contractor there is a paper trail required for many people in this food chain.


If there is a paper trail, then all taxes will be paid. Period. The only way to escape that certainty is death, or being rich enough to afford a tax lawyer to loophole your way out of perhaps some of it. Hell even in death, there might be an estate tax involved.

This House settlement is trying to skirt around a lot of state and federal laws, and even a couple of Constitutional amendments. But I haven't heard of it attempting to make any of the money that will be changing hands somehow federally non-taxable.

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I don't know if this is the absolute solution, but it's a tool to be used in slowing down the money drops because after all it is about the money.


Those bagmen could make a thousand drops of a million dollars each, all in U.S. pennies if they like. If indeed those transactions are recorded and traceable, then as long as the IRS gets its cut, they could care less about the amounts or how often.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 11:59 am
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/8/25 at 7:54 am to
And yet those are "situations".
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
9537 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:11 am to
At this point im almost down for eliminating all scholarships and banning recruiting. Kids can get legit NIL deals if they have them. Have some rev-share to help athletes pay for tuition. Kids pick the school they wanna go play for and try out for the team. You get one transfer then your eligibility is done if you do it again
Posted by dawgfacedmutt
God's Country
Member since Oct 2024
625 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:30 am to
...And they keep digging.
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
17281 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 8:45 am to
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The settlement pays athletes backdated to 2016.


Any chance we can get that pushed back to the late 80’s?
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:19 am to
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If the Big Three Automotive Companies ... GM, Ford, and Dodge ... agreed to exactly such an arrangement with no input from the UAW ?

It would rightly be called an anti-trust exemption, struck down, and voided.


Remember NIL? It's what started this whole thing.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49582 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 9:31 am to
Bad move. Our athletes were not "poor"

They need to be "hungry" again.

I had to pay 10 dining dollars (out of 300) just to eat one time the same great food Bama players ate all times of the day.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 11:05 am to
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I had to pay 10 dining dollars (out of 300) just to eat one time the same great food Bama players ate all times of the day.


Everyone knows you barners are still doing that Gus and Tubby tribute down at the waffle house.
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3444 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 11:06 am to
It's a giant clusterfrick that's driving me away from college sports.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 11:38 am to
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It's a giant clusterfrick that's driving me away from college sports.


It's the guardrails and stop signs that get you home safely at night. For the last 4 years, we have been throwing money at the players without conscience, and we better get some rules soon.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49582 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Everyone knows you barners are still doing that Gus and Tubby tribute down at the waffle house.

I was speaking truth and still got you in your feelings.

Poor guy.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23526 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 12:15 pm to
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This makes no sense. Why are they even getting paid over and above what the scholarship provides for and the many perks for being on the team. This solves absolutely nothing. The college game is ruined.


You think football and basketball players didn’t get paid before NIL?
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 12:30 pm to
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I was speaking truth and still got you in your feelings.


Nonsense. Tubby just went to the barners local wafflehouse to announce he's runnng for Gov. We know where you people meet to pay homage.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49582 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Tubby just went to the barners local wafflehouse to announce he's runnng for Gov.

Literally nobody cares.
Posted by ScotlandAve
Member since Dec 2024
335 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 1:17 pm to
This so-called settlement won't stop anything b/c you can't stop someone from receiving NIL which is based on their likeness. Furthermore, Deloitte has no power to compel a party or athlete to provide a copy of their NIL contract. How will Deloitte even know about every NIL contract? And, to try to cap NIL contracts is going against capitalism and won't stand up in court. Furthermore, to try to force collective bargaining onto a business is flat-out illegal and that's what this settlement tries to do.

You thought we had litigation before just wait.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
12889 posts
Posted on 6/8/25 at 2:28 pm to
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There will soon be a lawsuit because some kid doesn't have the grades to get in, but he or she is athletic enough to play.



Not even a question of “if”, it’s a question of when.
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