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Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:38 pm to Cimarron
Posted on 6/7/25 at 12:38 pm to Cimarron
quote:I also think this will happen. Basketball and football will form their organizations and leave the rest of the sports to their own devices.
At some point, I can see athletic departments being completely separate from the academic side of the house. Or least the big revenue sports. Especially if venture capital gets involved.
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 1:43 pm to JayAg
quote:It has NEVER been illegal to do commercials or sell autographs. It was against the NCAA’s selectively enforced rules, but never illegal.
it used to be illegal for them to do commercials or sell autographs
Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:05 pm to Pimphand
Wtf pimphand? The IRS ain't the NCAA. Those SOBs will be going after the money. If you have earnings, the IRS wants their cut, doesn't matter how you earned it. This is how to cut out the bag men.
In addition, they'll go after the bag men if they don't report the payout.
You're starting early today, but it is Saturday.
In addition, they'll go after the bag men if they don't report the payout.
You're starting early today, but it is Saturday.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:32 pm to Victor R Franko
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This is how to cut out the bag men.
Right. So for the last 50+ years, the IRS has conveniently ignored the uncountable number of bag men. But now, they are really going to get serious about that. Oh boy! Here they suddenly come!
Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:34 pm to Victor R Franko
This bill isn’t worth a paper it’s written on
Nothing will change and donors will always find ways to get the money to the athletes
I don’t think NIL is the biggest issue. I think it’s the transfer portal. They have to get that under control.
Nothing will change and donors will always find ways to get the money to the athletes
I don’t think NIL is the biggest issue. I think it’s the transfer portal. They have to get that under control.
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Posted on 6/7/25 at 2:36 pm to GusAU
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It has NEVER been illegal to do commercials or sell autographs. It was against the NCAA’s selectively enforced rules, but never illegal.
Correct, they should have put it on Ebay, then sued A&M when they started harassing them about it.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 3:11 pm to ouflak
money amounts have changed, Eric Dickerson excepted. There was no reason or built in excuse to investigate an unemployed student, even though we all know they were getting money somewhere. Now as an employee or contractor there is a paper trail required for many people in this food chain.
I don't know if this is the absolute solution, but it's a tool to be used in slowing down the money drops because after all it is about the money.
Transfer portal as many have mentioned is a big part of this, and chasing money a big part of the transfer portal issue. They go together.
I don't know if this is the absolute solution, but it's a tool to be used in slowing down the money drops because after all it is about the money.
Transfer portal as many have mentioned is a big part of this, and chasing money a big part of the transfer portal issue. They go together.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 3:23 pm to koreandawg
make them employees, fine. but, you have to institute a salary cap. you wanna $100 QB, ok. but he'll be playing behind a $5 line.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 4:32 pm to ljhog
You'll find no other situation in the United States ... quite literally ... where the activity is legal but everyone wants to limit those that want to pay those that perform the legal activity.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 4:35 pm to GusAU
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It has NEVER been illegal to do commercials or sell autographs. It was against the NCAA’s selectively enforced rules, but never illegal.
bullshite. Ask James Gatto, Merl Code, and Christian Dawkins.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:41 pm to koreandawg
Revenue sharing 20.5 million is the best college athletics can do with creating a hard salary cap. It's not going to suddenly make all teams equal. Not everyone can spend that kind of money and this will show itself soon enough. Most Power 4 teams will.
If this new private enterprise can police the salary cap with some type of integrity and force, again, its the only thing that is close to providing a level playing field for schools. it will take some of the wild out of the wild west.
NIL, is still NIL, but big business is not the problem, collectives and the highest bidder has been. Let's see if revenue sharing is going to work.
If this new private enterprise can police the salary cap with some type of integrity and force, again, its the only thing that is close to providing a level playing field for schools. it will take some of the wild out of the wild west.
NIL, is still NIL, but big business is not the problem, collectives and the highest bidder has been. Let's see if revenue sharing is going to work.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:47 pm to bamameister
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Revenue sharing 20.5 million is the best college athletics can do with creating a hard salary cap. It's not going to suddenly make all teams equal. Not everyone can spend that kind of money and this will show itself soon enough. Most Power 4 teams will.
If this new private enterprise can police the salary cap with some type of integrity and force, again, its the only thing that is close to providing a level playing field for schools. it will take some of the wild out of the wild west.
NIL, is still NIL, but big business is not the problem, collectives and the highest bidder has been. Let's see if revenue sharing is going to work.
It's never been equal. Revenue sharing wasn't about sharing with each other. Revenue sharing means sharing with the athletes.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:52 pm to ScoggDog
Add Jim Tressel getting fired and his players technically were getting axed, had to go pro over autographs.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 5:57 pm to koreandawg
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It's never been equal. Revenue sharing wasn't about sharing with each other. Revenue sharing means sharing with the athletes.
No one said it did. Schools can pay their players according to preference. They can give to a particular sport as they see fit. They can give to a particular position as they see fit. But schools have 20.5 mil in revenue sharing to spend for now, and that's true at Ohio State or anywhere else.
If someone is so foolish as to overpay for a QB, they better understand how many hungry mouths they have to feed in that locker room. Or else they will need Dr. Pepper to sign up said QB for a series of commercials. Which is the way this stuff was supposed to work once upon a time.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 6:30 pm to bamameister
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No one said it did. Schools can pay their players according to preference. They can give to a particular sport as they see fit. They can give to a particular position as they see fit. But schools have 20.5 mil in revenue sharing to spend for now, and that's true at Ohio State or anywhere else.
If the Big Three Automotive Companies ... GM, Ford, and Dodge ... agreed to exactly such an arrangement with no input from the UAW ?
It would rightly be called an anti-trust exemption, struck down, and voided.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 6:39 pm to lewis and herschel
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the fallacy that all programs make tons of money isn't true at all.
Why do so many lose money? Is it because they purposefully spend it to show $0 profit for tax purposes?
I think with this ruling you’re going to see smaller athletic department staffs and less often renovations of 5 year old athletic support and training facilities.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 6:41 pm to Oilfieldbiology
You see college football in the eyes of a big-time SEC program heavily supported by the community. Most aren't like that.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:14 pm to ScoggDog
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You'll find no other situation in the United States
NFL, NBA, MLB all have salary caps.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 7:41 pm to flagshipuniversity
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You missed the "get your facts straight" class. I was stating facts and if you don't think this will be in flux for the next few years....then you missed the "logical outcomes" class also. This will be challenged by every athlete or possible athlete in the country. It's "pro sports" and that is a fact. They are using the college names...... in name only. If that's what it is (and it is) then just call it that and let any kid play. They are not student athletes as UNC proved years ago with their fake arse classes. It's a joke to call them 'student athletes' when technically they are just guys and girls attending a so-called class in most cases.
There was never gonna be a quick fix, bruh. Never said there would be. Said this is moving in the right direction.
Posted on 6/7/25 at 8:09 pm to koreandawg
It is amusing to me that this settlement creates two new oversight organizations that are responsible to make sure everyone “follows the rules”:
- college compensation committee makes sure the “cap” is calculated correctly and that colleges apply the cap in providing compensation to athletes
- NIL clearinghouse (Deloitte) to evaluate all NIL deals using their value algorithm and as needed adjust the NIL value (example given - that $100k deal is only worth $50k)
I mean we had no problems with the enforcement provided by that other organization,…….the NCAA,………right?…….
- college compensation committee makes sure the “cap” is calculated correctly and that colleges apply the cap in providing compensation to athletes
- NIL clearinghouse (Deloitte) to evaluate all NIL deals using their value algorithm and as needed adjust the NIL value (example given - that $100k deal is only worth $50k)
I mean we had no problems with the enforcement provided by that other organization,…….the NCAA,………right?…….
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