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re: A $200,000. Church donation...
Posted on 11/11/10 at 2:51 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
Posted on 11/11/10 at 2:51 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
quote:hell the cam newton conspiracy/saga is over and the newtons have been cleared? how long was I asleep?
But they would have to prove that and they cant.
would you try not talking out of your arse for 5 minutes just to see what it feels like?
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 2:52 pm to RealityTiger
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NCAA can decide whatever the frick it wants to decide based on any type of evidence and a decision made. This isn't the court of law for the 1000th time.
which is part of the problem IMO. no accountability for the NCAA.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 2:56 pm to RealityTiger
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NCAA can decide whatever the frick it wants to decide based on any type of evidence and a decision made. This isn't the court of law for the 1000th time
It just seems as if without any more evidence, it would be a pretty huge assumption to put Auburn on probation over.
I mean honestly, almost every SEC school does this at times. I have seen plenty of "evidence" parked in the parking lot at our school...
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:00 pm to theenemy
Could someone go to this link and download the 6/21/05 Amendment (I don't have Adobe Acrobat Reader on home computer) and see what type of non-profit this organization is.
LINK
Thanks
A search of GA Sec of State Corp Division shows no other intity registered to Cecil Newton and Holy Zion is dissolved, so there would be reporting requirements on the money received.
LINK
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A search of GA Sec of State Corp Division shows no other intity registered to Cecil Newton and Holy Zion is dissolved, so there would be reporting requirements on the money received.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:03 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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He already did wingnut.
And just what did he provide?
Do I look like I work for the NCAA? The NCAA didn't send me the shite to peruse.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:10 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:11 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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Ray Ray Rodman
His "church" isn't really a church if you haven't noticed.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:13 pm to TheDoc
Are any of them? 
Im sorry but this kind of shite happens at every college. Even ours! The only reason this has blown up is someone has the red arse over Newton.
Im sorry but this kind of shite happens at every college. Even ours! The only reason this has blown up is someone has the red arse over Newton.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 3:14 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
quote:seriously. take the 5 minutes
I mean honestly, almost every SEC school does this at times. I have seen plenty of "evidence" parked in the parking lot at our school...
Posted on 11/11/10 at 6:10 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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It just seems as if without any more evidence, it would be a pretty huge assumption to put Auburn on probation over.
I think a lot of people are talking about different things.
I would agree to put Aubbie on probation they would need more but to rule Cam ineligible, they wouldn't need very much. See Dez Bryant meeting Deion.
Once again, if Cecil went from making 25,000 a year to all of a sudden 150,000 then Cam is toast.
Or if there was a large donation and Cecil refuses to tell the NCAA who the donor was.
For the elventy billionth time, this isn't a court of law. The NCAA is allowed to make judgments and leap to certain conclusions based on the evidence they gather.
TO put a school in hot water, they need to prove more than they need to be able to prove to kick a kid out.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 6:13 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
Yeah, the RICHARD SCRUSHY ACT.... 
Posted on 11/11/10 at 6:34 pm to drexyl
I'm surprised by some of the people in this thread.
We've got a situation in which a tax exempt organization suddenly came up with the funding to renovate a condemned building. There's also a chance that this money came in a rather large lump sum, or a series of 'donations' adding up to six figures. I wouldn't be surprised if the IRS is interested in examining this more closely. They might want to know how much the renovations cost, who performed them, and where the money for the renovations came from. Since the building was condemned, we can be sure that the building was inspected and appraised (I remember reading that the church was in such bad shape that renovating it would cost 50% of its value, or something to that effect). If true, then the IRS could easily assess the value of the renovations and determine about how much money the church received in donations.
I don't know why they wouldn't investigate this further. This is a high profile story and there seems to be a chance of impropriety.
We've got a situation in which a tax exempt organization suddenly came up with the funding to renovate a condemned building. There's also a chance that this money came in a rather large lump sum, or a series of 'donations' adding up to six figures. I wouldn't be surprised if the IRS is interested in examining this more closely. They might want to know how much the renovations cost, who performed them, and where the money for the renovations came from. Since the building was condemned, we can be sure that the building was inspected and appraised (I remember reading that the church was in such bad shape that renovating it would cost 50% of its value, or something to that effect). If true, then the IRS could easily assess the value of the renovations and determine about how much money the church received in donations.
I don't know why they wouldn't investigate this further. This is a high profile story and there seems to be a chance of impropriety.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 6:36 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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A $200,000. Church donation...
Lets say that a $200,000. "donation: was made to Cam's fathers church by a Auburn alum.
Is there really anything the NCAA can do? I dont think they have a case legally really.
Am I missing something?
Church donations are private anyway and he doesnt have to say who they came from regardless. The church owes the NCAA nothing..
The NCAA is not a court of law and they don't have to "prove" anything. All they have to do is connect enough dots to see the outline of the picture.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 6:39 pm to Hog on the Hill
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I'm surprised by some of the people in this thread.
We've got a situation in which a tax exempt organization suddenly came up with the funding to renovate a condemned building. There's also a chance that this money came in a rather large lump sum, or a series of 'donations' adding up to six figures. I wouldn't be surprised if the IRS is interested in examining this more closely. They might want to know how much the renovations cost, who performed them, and where the money for the renovations came from. Since the building was condemned, we can be sure that the building was inspected and appraised (I remember reading that the church was in such bad shape that renovating it would cost 50% of its value, or something to that effect). If true, then the IRS could easily assess the value of the renovations and determine about how much money the church received in donations.
I don't know why they wouldn't investigate this further. This is a high profile story and there seems to be a chance of impropriety.
based on what I've heard so far, there is potential for Cecil to be prosecuted under the federal RICO staute.....think about it!!!!
Posted on 11/11/10 at 6:43 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
quote:Not an accountant or an attorney but how many "churches" would be set up in order to launder money by organized crime if they enjoyed such protection. Tax exempt does not mean the same as totally protected.
Not with a church or church donation.
I honestly dont see anyway this loophole will cause Auburn or Cam damage.
Cam's father doenst have to provide shite to anyone regarding church donations. Not even the IRS, much less the NCAA.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 6:54 pm to Diamondawg
I asked this earlier in this thread, but I never really got an answer. On the second page of this it says that the full name of the church is Holy Zion Center of Deliverance Inc. Does the fact that it's a corporation and not a church change anything?
Posted on 11/11/10 at 7:07 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
Question for the SECr:
My son is 7 and has shown some above average athletic abilities. So, when IYO should I get myself ordained?
My son is 7 and has shown some above average athletic abilities. So, when IYO should I get myself ordained?
Posted on 11/11/10 at 7:11 pm to theenemy
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 11:32 pm to dapado33
Holy Zion was a nonprofit corporation registered in the State of Georgia, but the corporation was dissolved in 2008.
Posted on 11/12/10 at 12:30 am to beaver
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The NCAA found the nonprofit funds "would not have been available were it not for the student-athlete's athletic skills and reputation," a violation of amateurism rules.
Bingo. Rumor is $200K to the church ... based on Cam's signature.
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