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re: 88 percent of Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) athletic directors want an expanded playoff
Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:30 pm to ManBearSharkReb
Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:30 pm to ManBearSharkReb
That could be an option. It does seem that an un-proportional amount of injuries accrue during FCS games that are prior to big time matchups. The only dilemma you would run into would be in regards to money. A lot of those FCS programs depend on the check that the P5 schools write them for funding their entire athletic departments (not just football). They would have to find an alternative source of income. Also businesses around campus indirectly profit from football games regardless of who's playing, and I think the university will watch out for local business interests.
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:40 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I'd be okay with 8 teams if they gave the higher seed a home game in the first two rounds. Would incentivize teams that played hard all year and didn't coast at the end.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 8:50 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Expanding is fine, but this..
It should’t be this way because it depends on scenarios. For example... what if the highest rank G5 school has 2 losses, and an SEC west team has 2 loses that are super close loses. Why should the highest ranked G-5 opponent get in, in that scenario?
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66 percent of the ADs said the highest-ranked non-Power Five team should receive an automatic bid to an expanded playoff.
It should’t be this way because it depends on scenarios. For example... what if the highest rank G5 school has 2 losses, and an SEC west team has 2 loses that are super close loses. Why should the highest ranked G-5 opponent get in, in that scenario?
Posted on 4/11/20 at 9:34 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I concur, and by increasing to 8 teams it will make the major bowls meaningful.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:10 pm to Solo Cam
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Could you imagine what Joe Burrow would have done to Cincinnati or Memphis in the first round of the playoffs?
So Oklahoma was playing like a G5 school? That could’ve been 98-28 if Coach O hadn’t taken his foot off the accelerator.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 10:39 pm to Kentucker
They've looked back at the seasons back to the old BCS formula and beyond, and it is very rare that more than 4 or 5 teams are true title contenders. Going to 6 is a very iffy proposition, going to 8 just waters it down and makes sure everybody gets a trophy. Just like this season, it was clearly LSU, Ohio State, and Clemson, and WHO? OU got it by default, but there wasn't a good argument for anyone. Bama, Baylor, and Utah all played their way out of the #4 spot. OU was the last man standing and they were clearly overmatched and their resume wasn't that good either. Adding a spot for the G5 teams is just for a paycheck and to keep people off the NCAA's back threatening to sue. It's ridiculous. It should stay at 4. But what we will have is the P5 champions all getting an automatic bid, the G5 top dog, and 2 wild card teams chosen probably by a committee. And probably about 8 teams vying for those 2 slots, and the next team out will be bitching that it should go to 12 or 16. Some things never change.
When it does go to 8, since dumbasses can't leave well enough alone and never heard "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" I think the championship games for the conferences will go away. Instead, the P5 conferences will push for both divisions to get a spot and the championship game could jeopardize their champion. What if an 8-3 Wisconsin upset Ohio State and knocked them out of the playoff? I think to prevent that possibility, they will axe the title games and either eliminate divisions or try to get both division winners in.
When it does go to 8, since dumbasses can't leave well enough alone and never heard "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" I think the championship games for the conferences will go away. Instead, the P5 conferences will push for both divisions to get a spot and the championship game could jeopardize their champion. What if an 8-3 Wisconsin upset Ohio State and knocked them out of the playoff? I think to prevent that possibility, they will axe the title games and either eliminate divisions or try to get both division winners in.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:17 am to Solo Cam
quote:i have full confidence that they would have played LSU closer than Oklahoma did
This is retarded though. Like sending lambs to lions.
Could you imagine what Joe Burrow would have done to Cincinnati or Memphis in the first round of the playoffs? Good god.
They’re gonna have to have some sort of G5 playoff to determine that spot. They’re gonna start crying when an undefeated San Diego State gets in over a team like UCF that plays more P5 schools.
It will be fun to kick the shite out of UCF though to shut that little saducfmanginaknight up
Posted on 4/12/20 at 2:45 am to Kentucker
I think and I might be wrong but Oklahoma, Notre Dame, and Washington all kinda got beat to shite in the playoffs. To me there would be a big drop off in the 1-4 to the 4-8 teams...But who knows
Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:02 am to Ramblin Wreck
I think 4 is the right number and expanding the playoff would just water it down. You make it 8 teams than you have 9,10,11,12 bitching what about us? Then you have more playoff games and that is more chance for a star player to go down and a team that doesn't deserve to be there is in. You want best on best and expanding the playoff reduces that chance. By the end of the year the top 4 teams are obvious and it would be a mistake to expand the playoff.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 7:47 am to Ramblin Wreck
They should expand to 8 teams. Right now, of all the team sports in the world no matter what age, amateur or professional. College football has the lowest percentage of teams make the playoffs. That’s 3%; the next closest is men’s and women’s college basketball at 12%. And we have oeoooe who don’t want to go to half that at 6%.
Just have it set up with quarter finals 2 weeks after the conf champ game on Friday night 8pm and Saturday 1, 4, and 8. Use on campus or neutral sights.
Play all lower tier bowls over the next 13 days; leading up to New Years weekend with the NY 6 Games and semi finals as already planned, and then 7-10 days later the title game. Your are adding no additional time at all.
Your only adding 4 games. People say oh it’s too much for the players. There are basically 13,000 scholly and walk on FBS football players, in a quarter final game maybe 50-60 players play for each team; so your adding 1 game for at most 480 players that’s 4%.
As far as the 8 teams have selected...
P5 champs auto qualify if they are ranked in the top 12
Top ranked G5 champ auto qualify if they are ranked in top 12.
Top 2 ranked non P5 champ on Independent as at large; with an additional 3rd spot avail if no G5 champ is ranked in top 12.
Only Champs or Notre Dame can host.
Example bracket for 2019
1 LSU vs 8 Wisky (Baton Rouge) or New Orleans
2 tOSU vs 7 Baylor (Columbus) or Indianapolis
3 Clemson vs 6 Oregon (Clemson) or Charlotte
4 OU vs 5 UGA (Norman) or Dallas
Example bracket for 2018
1 Bama vs 8 UCF (Tuscaloosa) or Atlanta
2 Clemson vs 7 UM (Clemson) or Charlotte
3 Notre Dame vs 6 tOSU (South Bend) or Indianapolis
4 OU vs 5 UGA (Norman) or Dallas
Example bracket for 2017
1 Clemson vs 8 USC (Clemson) or Charlotte
2 OU vs 7 Auburn (Norman) or Dallas
3 UGA vs 6 Wisky (Athens) or Atlanta
4 Bama at 5 tOSU (Columbus) or Indianapolis
Just have it set up with quarter finals 2 weeks after the conf champ game on Friday night 8pm and Saturday 1, 4, and 8. Use on campus or neutral sights.
Play all lower tier bowls over the next 13 days; leading up to New Years weekend with the NY 6 Games and semi finals as already planned, and then 7-10 days later the title game. Your are adding no additional time at all.
Your only adding 4 games. People say oh it’s too much for the players. There are basically 13,000 scholly and walk on FBS football players, in a quarter final game maybe 50-60 players play for each team; so your adding 1 game for at most 480 players that’s 4%.
As far as the 8 teams have selected...
P5 champs auto qualify if they are ranked in the top 12
Top ranked G5 champ auto qualify if they are ranked in top 12.
Top 2 ranked non P5 champ on Independent as at large; with an additional 3rd spot avail if no G5 champ is ranked in top 12.
Only Champs or Notre Dame can host.
Example bracket for 2019
1 LSU vs 8 Wisky (Baton Rouge) or New Orleans
2 tOSU vs 7 Baylor (Columbus) or Indianapolis
3 Clemson vs 6 Oregon (Clemson) or Charlotte
4 OU vs 5 UGA (Norman) or Dallas
Example bracket for 2018
1 Bama vs 8 UCF (Tuscaloosa) or Atlanta
2 Clemson vs 7 UM (Clemson) or Charlotte
3 Notre Dame vs 6 tOSU (South Bend) or Indianapolis
4 OU vs 5 UGA (Norman) or Dallas
Example bracket for 2017
1 Clemson vs 8 USC (Clemson) or Charlotte
2 OU vs 7 Auburn (Norman) or Dallas
3 UGA vs 6 Wisky (Athens) or Atlanta
4 Bama at 5 tOSU (Columbus) or Indianapolis
Posted on 4/12/20 at 12:54 pm to stelly1025
I think 8 is the right number because it would allow for the inclusion of every P5 conference champ and more than one SEC team most years. The purpose behind replacing the BCS with the playoff was to eliminate the beauty contest and let the champion win on the field, not in the polls.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 3:07 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Defending undefeated national champion LSU votes Yes
Posted on 4/12/20 at 3:12 pm to Ramblin Wreck
Tell them now do the percentage of kids who want a piece of the pie. I’m sure athletics directors will respond accordingly.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 3:47 pm to Ramblin Wreck
8 is too many, but it will at least be better than the current sytem.
The problem with the current system is that politics allow for at least 1, if not 2 subpar teams to make it in every year. Notre Dame and Oklahoma being the 2 main examples.
I'd much rather see a wildcard format similar to how it's done in the NFL but a much smaller scale: Have 6 teams, but the bottom 4 have to "play their way in" initially.
Top 2 teams should be conference champions (in terms of overall record, not championship games) of the 2 strongest conferences that season. Bottom 4 are based on the current committee and can be from any conference in the FBS.
An alternative that I think would be better is to have a modified bowl season immediately following the last regular season games and before the selection. This round of bowl games would provide a lot of statistics that would aid in determining strength of schedule and would allow the committee to better select "the 4 best teams". Teams like Notre Dame would never make it because their schedule would be exposed in the round of bowl games.
The problem with the current system is that politics allow for at least 1, if not 2 subpar teams to make it in every year. Notre Dame and Oklahoma being the 2 main examples.
I'd much rather see a wildcard format similar to how it's done in the NFL but a much smaller scale: Have 6 teams, but the bottom 4 have to "play their way in" initially.
Top 2 teams should be conference champions (in terms of overall record, not championship games) of the 2 strongest conferences that season. Bottom 4 are based on the current committee and can be from any conference in the FBS.
An alternative that I think would be better is to have a modified bowl season immediately following the last regular season games and before the selection. This round of bowl games would provide a lot of statistics that would aid in determining strength of schedule and would allow the committee to better select "the 4 best teams". Teams like Notre Dame would never make it because their schedule would be exposed in the round of bowl games.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:03 pm to Ramblin Wreck
College football over like the XFL.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 5:01 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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the 2 strongest conferences that season
How would the “2 strongest conferences that season” be determined? If it’s by the number of ranked teams, then the playoffs would still be at the mercy of the polls.
By having 8 teams which include every P5 champ, then no one could bitch that their conference was left out even though they “were stronger” than the pollsters gave them credit for.
Sure, there would be some mismatches but there would occasionally be some surprises. And it would be more fair.
Also, Notre Dame should be totally excluded until they join a conference.
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