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Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:34 am to
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15814 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:34 am to
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The “war on drugs” has been proven to be a bloated waste of federal and state tax dollars with no real impact on drug abuse in the country, aside for inappropriate incarceration of poc at higher rates. We need tax dollars towards drug treatment and mental healthcare instead.


The war on drugs hasn’t actually been fought. It became a social experiment so early in its conception and is too fraught with “racism”. If they actually made a real, colorblind decision that illegal use of drugs was harmful to our society and devoted real resources with real penalties to it we would be better off.

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This is such an ill informed and ignorant statement. It’s proven to help with chronic pain management, nausea, cancer treatment, seizure disorder, anxiety, insomnia and is a much safer, non-addictive, alternative to various prescriptions or alcohol.


Non THC products don’t do this? Im pretty sure that same argument was made to oversell CBD products. Getting high offers the same miracle cure found in all snake oil sales pitches. And yet 99% of the time it’s sole purpose is to simply get high. Doesn’t that strike you as odd?

I have gout and RA, 2 things CBD and weed are touted as worded cures for. Neither did a damn thing for me. As far as the war on opioids doesn’t effect legal controlled use of pain meds other than the requirement to take a piss test to verify you are actually using them instead of selling them and using them at recommended dosage. I have 3 that I take for really bad flare ups. Smoking a joint to self medicate is a justification to get high for the overwhelming majority.
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
830 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:47 am to
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Non THC products don’t do this? Im pretty sure that same argument was made to oversell CBD products.

Pills are terrible and have long term effects. Vast majority of people with chronic pain have depression and anxiety as a result. I’ve tried over 20 antidepressants, with allergic reactions, simply not effective and serious side effects. Only success I have had is with IV Ketamine for pain/mood, which is just now being reimbursed through insurance.

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I have gout and RA, 2 things CBD and weed are touted as worded cures for. Neither did a damn thing for me. As far as the war on opioids doesn’t effect legal controlled use of pain meds other than the requirement to take a piss test to verify you are actually using them

I’m sorry to hear that you have to manage those conditions and that THC/CBD didn’t help. Everyone’s body is different and what works for some doesn’t for others. I agree that cbd alone does nothing, some claim it does help with anxiety. It has to be included with THC to essentially activate the beneficial effects. There are so many strains out there to manage very different conditions. You really have to research and give the right strains a try. Visit Leafly and just search the strains.

Pain Clinics are removing many patients from opioids. I’m in many support groups and it is astounding how many long term patients have been pushed off the pain meds, while being compliant the whole time. I also cold turkey quit last year as I began my ketamine therapy. It became cost prohibitive, my neurosurgeon and psychiatrist both referred me back to pain management. Went to two different clinics and neither want to prescribe opioids anymore. I have muscle relaxers and nothing else. I can’t sit or stand for more than 10 minutes due to nerve pain. I’d probably have eaten a bullet already if it wasn’t for mmj.

It’s a pretty harmless natural plant, I’m sure it has an impact on your lungs. Just not enough research yet. Nixon was the idiot responsible for classifying it as a schedule 1 drug back in 1970, based on unfounded fear. Meth and cocaine are schedule 2, wtf?

Here’s an article that hits on some of what I’ve been saying, little old but relevant to the topic on how big pharma and lobbyists have prolonged the decriminalization and rescheduling of pot: Pharma fighting legalization

We’ve sure derailed this dumb kid’s stupidity in carrying an oz of weed around. I’ve said my piece, I’m out. Take care!

Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15814 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:58 am to
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Pills are terrible and have long term effects. Vast majority of people with chronic pain have depression and anxiety as a result. I’ve tried over 20 antidepressants, with allergic reactions, simply not effective and serious side effects. Only success I have had is with IV Ketamine for pain/mood, which is just now being reimbursed through insurance.


I had a medical incident in 1999 that had me taking various pills for inflammation, pain, joint issues, nausea and have not seen the long term effects of taking pills causing depression with the answer being needing to smoke a joint. That just screams horse squeeze.

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It’s a pretty harmless natural plant


It’s a psychosomatic drug, a mind altering substance. It’s far from harmless.

I’ve read all the arguments for legal pot when I was involved with the GA libertarian party. It didn’t stand up then and doesn’t stand up now. All the products pot was supposed to make better or replace and the tax windfall just doesn’t add up.

***And the over 20 gr guy was also arrested for a controlled substance without a prescription. Folks just got hung up on the weed.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 9:00 am
Posted by TheMidnightTiger
Member since Jun 2018
2364 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 12:24 pm to
If you don’t like marijuana you are a stiff with no personality.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:06 pm to
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Where did I ever say that you shouldn't toke down anywhere it is legal?


The issue here is you appear to think it should be illegal where it is currently illegal.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73404 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:07 pm to
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If you don’t like marijuana you are a stiff with no personality.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:09 pm to
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war on drugs hasn’t actually been fought. It became a social experiment so early in its conception and is too fraught with “racism”. If they actually made a real, colorblind decision that illegal use of drugs was harmful to our society and devoted real resources with real penalties to it we would be better off.


Pure nonsense. Just because we lost this war doesn’t mean it wasn’t fought. Way too much $$$ spent to fight the war, and many lives screwed over due to the penalties you claim to not exist.

Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15814 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Just because we lost this war doesn’t mean it wasn’t fought


You think a real effort was made to stop or even slow down the flow of illegal drugs or abuse of prescription drugs? Really? That’s what you in your mind believe? That’s a special level of willful ignorance even for you slick.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:21 pm to
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Non THC products don’t do this?


Some can, but unlike weed, most have bad side effects, and/or offer less benefits, which includes getting high. Yes, contrary to your backwards arse thinking, that is a benefit for a person undergoing chemo.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:22 pm to
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It didn’t stand up then and doesn’t stand up now.


Wrong and wrong. As usual.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:24 pm to
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You think a real effort was made to stop or even slow down the flow of illegal drugs


Too much money has been spent and wasted . I suppose even more could have been spent and wasted, if that’s the card you are playing here.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15814 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:24 pm to
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Some can, but unlike weed, most have bad side effects,

CBD was sold as a magic cure all by the same folks selling weed as a magic cure all. When did people lose their health skepticism?

You probably really feel that pot for chemo and for recreational use are the same don’t you?
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
830 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:43 pm to
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I had a medical incident in 1999 that had me taking various pills for inflammation, pain, joint issues, nausea and have not seen the long term effects of taking pills causing depression with the answer being needing to smoke a joint. That just screams horse squeeze.


Ok, one final reply because you are completely ignorant af.

Chronic pain and depression
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41127 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 2:36 pm to
Looks like you get the last word buddy. Good luck to you.
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
2218 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 3:06 pm to
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Smokeyone


I feel like you should be more supportive of weed with such a username.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 3:57 pm to
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You probably really feel that pot for chemo and for recreational use are the same don’t you?



It should be legal for people to use either way. There really isn’t a good argument otherwise, as you and bigDgator continue to demonstrate.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15814 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 5:31 pm to
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It should be legal for people to use either way.


Why? I mean I get that you would want a mind altering substance to escape your miserable excuse for a life but damn. There is nothing positive gained from recreational drug use.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:38 pm to
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Why?


I already answered that, and you never came back around to it, which means you have yet to answer the much better question with a reasonable response: why NOT?

The benefits of removing this form of prohibition far outweigh the negatives. If the best answer you can provide simply exposes the hypocrisy of prohibition in relation to alcohol, then the case is pretty much closed against your ignorance.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
15814 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 7:54 pm to
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why NOT?


Going through life getting high all the time isn’t productive for society. A moral, ethical, spiritual, financial, burden caused by those escaping reality by entering an altered state is enough to seriously examine any potential positives. And I still haven’t found anything that smoking anoint does better than what CBD is supposed to do. And commercialized pot is going to make it worse. Don’t believe it? Look at what they did to tobacco. Took a product and added enhancements to make it more profitable.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:26 pm to
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Going through life getting high all the time isn’t productive for society.


There will always be people who abuse things, but thats regardless of legality, so its not close to a reasonable justification for this prohibition.

Moderation is the key to most fun things. A night cap on the weekend with some friends, be it a bourbon or a brownie, just arent a big deal like you want them to be. Your lust for big government wasting money and ruining lives is misguided.
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