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re: 4 year starters at QB set a lot of records but are not well-liked by fans
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:54 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:54 pm to lsufball19
Since we are around the same age I'd guess you have similar feelings, but even though my team wasn't elite the 1995/96-2000ish era of SEC football is my favorite ever.
Probably has something to do with my age, but sometimes I just throw on an old YouTube video of a random SEC game from that era and soak it up.
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LOL - read my mind
Probably has something to do with my age, but sometimes I just throw on an old YouTube video of a random SEC game from that era and soak it up.
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I still miss 1990s SEC football
LOL - read my mind
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:55 pm to Ag Zwin
4 year starters are typically pretty flawed because if they were good enough they’d be playing on Sunday after their Jr. season.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Yeah being that my first semester at LSU was in '93, the 90s and 2000s really shaped my view of college football and developed which rivalries I cared most about.
Plus, the rules (or lack thereof) made for a better game then too. We all like some offense. But, I really appreciated defensive struggles.
Plus, the rules (or lack thereof) made for a better game then too. We all like some offense. But, I really appreciated defensive struggles.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Full disclosure, I took my grandfather’s old VHS recording of our games back then and had then made into DVDs years ago. I still watch them. I feel like we all have a special place for games from when we first started watching football, regardless of how good or bad our teams were. I was born in 1985, so I started watching when we sucked, we got pretty good for a few years, then sucked again. So it was a mixed bag. Us making the SEC CG in 2001, then winning, and the winning the Sugar Bowl was one of the highlights of my childhood. I had never had the feeling of winning like that
Posted on 8/11/21 at 7:59 pm to TigerLunatik
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Yeah being that my first semester at LSU was in '93, the 90s and 2000s really shaped my view of college football and developed which rivalries I cared most about.
Plus, the rules (or lack thereof) made for a better game then too. We all like some offense. But, I really appreciated defensive struggles.
Yep - and TV availability was kind of in the sweet spot where most of the games were on TV but a game on ESPN or CBS still meant A LOT. Plus the ESPN Saturday Night crew was the all time best with Patrick, Gottfried and Karsten. And the coverage of the sport was there, but it wasn't smothering.
Good times.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:00 pm to lsufball19
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. I feel like we all have a special place for games from when we first started watching football, regardless of how good or bad our teams were. I was born in 1985, so I started watching when we sucked, we got pretty good for a few years, then sucked again. So it was a mixed bag. Us making the SEC CG in 2001, then winning, and the winning the Sugar Bowl was one of the highlights of my childhood. I had never had the feeling of winning like that
Couldn't have said it better myself, and a lot of it has to do with
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I was born in 1985
same
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I’ll tell you what’s great looking back on is watching the LSU/Tenn game from 2000 the week after Saban lost to UAB. Some of the commentary is gold listening to now
Btw, whatever happened to Adrian Carsen(so)? That dude was great
Btw, whatever happened to Adrian Carsen(so)? That dude was great
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:04 pm to TigerLunatik
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Plus, the rules (or lack thereof) made for a better game then too. We all like some offense. But, I really appreciated defensive struggles.
I think the sweet spot is games that end up like 27-24. That's the kind of game where there are big plays on both sides of the ball. All these 52-48 type scores are not my cup of tea. Basically the last team with the ball wins.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:07 pm to Robot Santa
I even like them a little lower scoring than that. Now if a team hits a 60 yard TD it's like "oh that was a nice play." When back then it totally changed the momentum and nature of the game.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:07 pm to lsufball19
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I’ll tell you what’s great looking back on is watching the LSU/Tenn game from 2000 the week after Saban lost to UAB. Some of the commentary is gold listening to now
I still vividly remember watching that game in my granddad's living room in Chattanooga. We got home sometime during the 1st quarter from the Alabama/South Carolina game and just remember cheering so dang hard for LSU even though I knew there was no way they'd win (which, of course, they did).
It's funny you mention watching games in that way - I love going back and finding old games of future great players or coaches in their first few games just to listen to the commentary about them. I found the Saban's MSU team vs Nebraska tape a few weeks ago and watched it for that exact reason.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:08 pm to TigerLunatik
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I even like them a little lower scoring than that. Now if a team hits a 60 yard TD it's like "oh that was a nice play." When back then it totally changed the momentum and nature of the game.
Agree. And I understand why games are played the way they are now. I don't want my coach to be a stubborn arse who tries to will the game back to 1997. Same as my opinion towards the way baseball is played now - I get it, I know why we do it, I just don't enjoy it as much.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 8:40 pm to lsufball19
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Yeah ours is still Tommy Hodson who is, I think, the only full-time 4 year starter we’ve ever had.
There’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.
I was at the game (I think) where John Roper lit him up head on, and ended up crashing his own helmet down on his nose so hard that he whipped it off after the play and blood was spurting from his own broken nose.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:48 am to UTprideofTX
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Gah he was horrible. Regressed from his HS days.
And he wasn't even good in HS
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Yep - and TV availability was kind of in the sweet spot where most of the games were on TV but a game on ESPN or CBS still meant A LOT. Plus the ESPN Saturday Night crew was the all time best with Patrick, Gottfried and Karsten. And the coverage of the sport was there, but it wasn't smothering.
Good times.
Man, you ain't lying.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 12:55 am to Ag Zwin
Taylor Martinez maybe? Actually Huskers might like him cause I dunno how many other 4 year QBs they've had in the 21st century.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 12:58 am
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:00 am to Ag Zwin
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Mond and Corey Pullig have owned many A&M career QB records, but were never held in high esteem by fans.
If you are there long enough to start for 4 years, it seems you were not good enough to be drafted early.
Peter Gardere did the same at Texas.
Not being highly conversant in the history of all SEC schools, who else fit this bill?
Hard to hate Peter Gardere. He beat OU all four years. Sadly, he was the QB when the Horns ran into The U at the Cotton bowl.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:23 am to bigDgator
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Of courser it doesn't help that he was accused of sexual assault as a high school coach.
And you had tim Tebow in the wings. Leak was essentially overshadowed by Jesus Jr
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
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What's wild is that those 291 yards made up 29% of his total rush yards for 1996 AND 1997. He ran for 589 yards in 96 (291 of them in that game) and 415 yards in 97.
How? How the hell os that even possible.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:35 am to Ag Zwin
Peyton Manning and Canton, OH disagree
Posted on 8/12/21 at 8:55 am to Ag Zwin
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Mond and Corey Pullig have owned many A&M career QB records, but were never held in high esteem by fans.
I think part of this is that they both replaced flashier players with more vibrant personalities. Bucky Richardson and Manziel were so hyped.
The Richardson thing is very funny in hindsight as he stats were never that great but the fans adored him.
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