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re: 3 and 6 SEC Schedule Model
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:51 pm to G&P
Posted on 5/25/22 at 7:51 pm to G&P
Obviously OU has no real say, and I know we will get Texas and most likely Mizzou due to the Big 8 connection. However, going with recency bias, it would be cool to see Florida, LSU, or Tennessee as a third. The atmosphere in this stadiums is amazing and it would be fun to go see new places The problem there is that it makes no sense to tear apart long standing rivalries just to force new rivalries on schools. We’ll go with whatever we get, but it will be interesting to see if this is what they go with and how they divvy it up.
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Posted on 5/25/22 at 8:04 pm to OilfieldSooner
3-6-6 makes perfect sense. You keep your traditional rivals, and then you can do first two years you have home and home with 6, then do the other 6 the same, or you can do 6 one year the other 6 the next and then flip the home and away for the following 2 years.
Every 4 yr player will have played every team in the SEC, both at home on the road.
This is the way.
Every 4 yr player will have played every team in the SEC, both at home on the road.
This is the way.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:01 am to southernboisb
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4X4 pods with 1 perm in each of the other 3 pods. Therefore NO rivalry is impacted from being annual.
How many games are you talking about. 4 pods, 3 games plus 1 permanent in the other 3 PODS equals 6 games. In a 16 team SEC, that leaves 10 teams, taking out yourself, leaves 9 other teams. In an 8 game schedule, you play 2, rotate year 3, play 2, rotate year 5, play 2, then in year 7 play 2, that is 8 of the other 9 teams than starting in year 9 you play the 9th.
Sorry, not a fan. In a 9 game schedule, 3 PODS plus 3 Permanent then 3 in year 1 and 2, 3 new teams in years 3 and 4, then the next 3 in year 5 and 6 would be better, but you still don't see all the teams in 4 year cycle. Maybe your set up could work with the 3 POD + 3 Perms from the other 3 PODS equals 6 games, then 3/3/3 in years 1, 2, and 3, then in year 4 the teams you played in year 1 rotate back on. That might work, but you need 9 games.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:03 pm to UKWildcats
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3-6-6 makes perfect sense. You keep your traditional rivals, and then you can do first two years you have home and home with 6, then do the other 6 the same, or you can do 6 one year the other 6 the next and then flip the home and away for the following 2 years.
Every 4 yr player will have played every team in the SEC, both at home on the road.
This is the way.
I don't understand why there's even argument. This is clearly the best way.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 6:43 pm to JKChesterton
4X4 pods
1 rival in each of the other 3 pods
Yearly paid pods
So basically a 6-3 rotation. Winner of each duo is an SECCG team.
Y1 paired pods: AB vrs. CD
Y2 paired pods: AC vrs. BD
Y3 paired pods: AD vrs. BC
A1 schedule:
Y1 - A2, A3, A4, B1 (pod B perm opponent), B2, B3, B4, C1 (pod C perm opponent), D1 (pod D perm opponent)
Y2 - A2, A3, A4, B1 (pod B perm opponent), C1 (pod C perm opponent), C2, C3, C4, D1 (pod D perm opponent)
Y3 - A2, A3, A4, B1 (pod B perm opponent), C1 (pod C perm opponent), D1 (pod D perm opponent), D2, D3, D4
Y4 - Y1 sites flipped
Y5 - Y2 sites flipped
Y6 - Y3 sites flipped
1 rival in each of the other 3 pods
Yearly paid pods
So basically a 6-3 rotation. Winner of each duo is an SECCG team.
Y1 paired pods: AB vrs. CD
Y2 paired pods: AC vrs. BD
Y3 paired pods: AD vrs. BC
A1 schedule:
Y1 - A2, A3, A4, B1 (pod B perm opponent), B2, B3, B4, C1 (pod C perm opponent), D1 (pod D perm opponent)
Y2 - A2, A3, A4, B1 (pod B perm opponent), C1 (pod C perm opponent), C2, C3, C4, D1 (pod D perm opponent)
Y3 - A2, A3, A4, B1 (pod B perm opponent), C1 (pod C perm opponent), D1 (pod D perm opponent), D2, D3, D4
Y4 - Y1 sites flipped
Y5 - Y2 sites flipped
Y6 - Y3 sites flipped
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:02 pm to ptclaus98
I don't understand it because:
1 - many rivalries are lost
2 - the 3 "must play teams" are debatable as to who they are (who decides who they are?)
3 - MORE TIE-BREAKERS are needed to be created to sort same-record teams with no common opponents
4 - 9 (or any odd #) games result in 1/2 getting an extra H game...how is that decided?
Sorry, but to me, there's NO format to play everybody in a way to keep all must play games & do it in a balanced way in just 4 years. SOMEBODY is going to be unfairly treated.
1 - many rivalries are lost
2 - the 3 "must play teams" are debatable as to who they are (who decides who they are?)
3 - MORE TIE-BREAKERS are needed to be created to sort same-record teams with no common opponents
4 - 9 (or any odd #) games result in 1/2 getting an extra H game...how is that decided?
Sorry, but to me, there's NO format to play everybody in a way to keep all must play games & do it in a balanced way in just 4 years. SOMEBODY is going to be unfairly treated.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:18 pm to southernboisb
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I don't understand it because:
1 - many rivalries are lost
2 - the 3 "must play teams" are debatable as to they are (who decides who they are?)
3 - MORE TIE-BREAKERS are needed to be created to sort same-record teams with no common opponents
4 - 9 (or ay odd #) games result in 1/2 getting an extra H game...how is that decided?
Sorry, but to me, there's NO format to play everybody in a way to keep all must play games & do it in a balanced way in just 4 years. SOMEBODY is going to be unfairly treated.
Spare me the lost rivalry BS. Tennessee has played Auburn 3 times in 12 years and they're bigger rivals to us than half the East. You can play every team in the conference home and away twice every 4 years with a 3 and 6 and it doesn't force other teams into weird yearly matchups like the pods do
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:21 pm to UKWildcats
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3-6-6 makes perfect sense. You keep your traditional rivals
People say stuff like this and then propose LSU has Arkansas and A&M instead of Alabama and Florida
Which is bullshite.
I get it if we get Arkansas or A&M instead of Auburn. Auburn has been an incredible rivalry for 30 years but only 30 years. But Florida and Alabama are really important for anyone who cares about traditional SEC games. These have also been incredible and profitable games for the conference and the networks over the last 15 plus years.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:09 pm to ptclaus98
Sorry if you only have Alabama, some of us have MORE annual rivalries on our schedule that AREN'T going to be sacrificed.
Also, solve this situation:
Teams A, B, & C are 6-3.
A&B have 2 common opponents.
A&C have 1 common opponent.
B&C have 0 common opponents.
How are they ranked?
Pods/divisions instantly solve that WITHOUT tie-breakers because it could never happen.
Also, solve this situation:
Teams A, B, & C are 6-3.
A&B have 2 common opponents.
A&C have 1 common opponent.
B&C have 0 common opponents.
How are they ranked?
Pods/divisions instantly solve that WITHOUT tie-breakers because it could never happen.
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:12 pm to molsusports
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3 and 6 SEC Schedule Model by molsusports
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3-6-6 makes perfect sense. You keep your traditional rivals
People say stuff like this and then propose LSU has Arkansas and A&M instead of Alabama and Florida
Which is bullshite.
I get it if we get Arkansas or A&M instead of Auburn. Auburn has been an incredible rivalry for 30 years but only 30 years. But Florida and Alabama are really important for anyone who cares about traditional SEC games. These have also been incredible and profitable games for the conference and the networks over the last 15 plus years.
Proves my #2 point about who decides what those 3 teams are!
Posted on 5/29/22 at 11:19 pm to deaux
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There’s zero chance Ole Miss walks away with State and Vanderbilt as permanent opponents. What a cake walk that would be.
I think you need to review the last 30 years.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:12 am to Reservoir dawg
If they go with 3-6 and Auburn will have Bama and UGA. Bama will have Auburn and UTK. UGA will have Auburn and Florida. Others will keep there main rival (ole miss vs MSU)
Those are the games that will be protected.
The third game for Auburn, Bama and UGA will not be Big 6.
They may chose 2-6 to protect the 8 game schedule.
Those are the games that will be protected.
The third game for Auburn, Bama and UGA will not be Big 6.
They may chose 2-6 to protect the 8 game schedule.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:36 am to allin2010
As long as A&M’s historic rivalry with South Carolina is equally preserved.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:06 am to Mr Sausage
Who knows what happens. 7-7 split vote at this time. Which school changes to the other side to get this moving forward.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:08 am to G&P
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It's not as restrictive and repetitive as pods and would still keep new programs rotating through SEC stadiums so it feels more like a league."
How? It’s literally the exact same thing as pods, just everyone has a unique pod.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:09 am to G&P
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LSU - Florida, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
I would love this.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:32 am to Oilfieldbiology
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LSU - Florida, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
I would love this.
Considering the options I would take it
Posted on 5/30/22 at 9:00 am to Bwmdx
Who do you think handles scheduling now
Posted on 5/30/22 at 9:04 am to G&P
Genius set up. Put this guy in charge yesterday.
Posted on 5/30/22 at 9:19 am to Larry Seinfeld
Texas. OU. Bama. Georgia
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