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re: 2nd & 3rd tier fan bases- do you legitimately think your team can EVER win a Nat Champ?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:22 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:22 am to WG_Dawg
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it's ignorant to say that something that has literally never happened beofre, likely won't ever happen? Okay.
Yes. You probably thought SC would never win the East, or beat UGA 3 years in a row, or beat Clemson 5 years in a row, or any one of 15x other things that were done for the first time. "Just because it's never happened" is a terrible reason to use.
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Yep, they had a marvelous 3 year run from 11-13. Awesome teams. Despite this being the best run in school history none of those teams finished wiht less than 2 losses.
LSU won a National Championship in 2007 with 2 losses. That argument is moot as well.
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so we're saying the same thing...
We're not saying the same thing. You think SC can NEVER win one while stating that you believe Miss State/Ole Miss/Missouri could with flawed logic. I don't think SC will win one, but to state that they "never" will is something differently entirely.
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Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:23 am to Covingtontiger77
We've been 1 game away in 2007 and 2013. So yes it's possible.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:25 am to gamecockman12
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You probably thought SC would never win the East,
You're making his point for him by bragging about winning a division once.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:28 am to Covingtontiger77
quote:Not a Vandy fan, but they have multiples NCs in football.
do you legitimately think your team can EVER win a Nat Champ?
It's been 100 years, but they still have them.
Vanderbilt has been awarded 6 national championships for the years 1906, 1910, 1911, 1918, 1921, and 1922. The selectors were determined for 1918 by David Wilson; 1910, 1921, and 1922 by James Howell; 1906 and 1911 by Richard Billingsley Report; 1921 and 1922 by Clyde P.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:29 am to Shoeshine
Oh FFS. 
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:30 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
What are these advantages? I don’t think there is much of a facilities difference. Is it recruiting? I will admit Florida is some of the most fertile ground, but as I have witnessed my whole life, UF somehow has allowed other teams inside and outside the state to pluck top talent.
If you say it’s history, sure, but much like my point about Spurrier’s arrival, y’all had little before and he still managed to win a natty. It seems to me, the only thing that makes UF good is the coach, which is fair because that’s one of the most important things about a team.
If you say it’s history, sure, but much like my point about Spurrier’s arrival, y’all had little before and he still managed to win a natty. It seems to me, the only thing that makes UF good is the coach, which is fair because that’s one of the most important things about a team.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:30 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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You're making his point for him by bragging about winning a division once.
Not really. The comparison is to Ole Miss and Miss State. Miss State has won the West one time since 1992 when SC joined the conference. Ole Miss has not won the division since 1992.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:34 am to TrussvilleTide
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UGA just won 2 so at least 2nd tier fanbases have a chance
You reek of fear with this statement. There is nothing 2nd tier about UGA in anyway.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:37 am to MondayNightPavs
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What are these advantages? I don’t think there is much of a facilities difference. Is it recruiting? I will admit Florida is some of the most fertile ground, but as I have witnessed my whole life, UF somehow has allowed other teams inside and outside the state to pluck top talent.
If you say it’s history, sure, but much like my point about Spurrier’s arrival, y’all had little before and he still managed to win a natty. It seems to me, the only thing that makes UF good is the coach, which is fair because that’s one of the most important things about a team.
You think SCar has the same advantages as the flagship school in the state with the most blue chip recruits?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:37 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Sorry I seem to be replying to you in multiple threads.
Regarding the depth issue. It goes both ways, the scrub teams from the big 12 or PAC would be weeded out fairly quickly for that very reason. Yes it’s going to take top talent to win in a 12 team playoff, but the opening of the door to a Miss State or SCar makes their chances better, not worse than the current 4 team one.
Regarding the depth issue. It goes both ways, the scrub teams from the big 12 or PAC would be weeded out fairly quickly for that very reason. Yes it’s going to take top talent to win in a 12 team playoff, but the opening of the door to a Miss State or SCar makes their chances better, not worse than the current 4 team one.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:39 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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You're making his point for him by bragging about winning a division once.
no we arent...we are saying with the right coach we can absolutely compete for titles. We did it with a damn good coach in spurrier, and probably would have kept on being a 10+ win team had he not lost interest in coaching. If the right coach gets the program rolling it can compete for a title and sneak in and get one.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:40 am to GamecockUltimate
This thread isn't just about competing for titles. You have disadvantages that Bama, UGA, LSU, UF, etc don't.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:43 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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This thread isn't just about competing for titles. You have disadvantages that Bama, UGA, LSU, UF, etc don't.
it is though, the question was "do you legitimately think your team can EVER win a national title"
why wouldnt I think that the right coach could get the program in a spot to where they were competing for titles.
put it this way, if the year was 2013 and this question was asked...would you think SC and Mizzou had a chance to EVER win one?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:44 am to GamecockUltimate
This isn't 2013.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:45 am to Covingtontiger77
South Carolina was days away from hiring Kirby Smart when UGA hired him. If that had happened, the SC would be a threat for a title. Who knows, that type of scenario may happen for one of these teams at some point.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:45 am to Covingtontiger77
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NO SHOT
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Mizzou
We’ve entered the last week of the season with a chance to go to the National Championship game 2 times in the last 16 years. Even though it’s unlikely, it’d be stupid to make this claim when a team has been so close more than the majority of college football world.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:46 am to Covingtontiger77
All Mizzou needs is a turn of state pride where the top talent stays home. Missouri has enough talent in state to make a championship caliber team.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:46 am to Covingtontiger77
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NO SHOT
Ole miss
Miss state
Mizzou
Vandy
So. Car
Kentucky
I think every single one of these programs could win a natty, especially in this climate. In the world of the portal, they're all one Joe Burrow transfer away from catching fire.
OP is being naïve. Not sure who "your team" is but my guess is that you're spoiled and don't know how fast trends can swing.
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:47 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
What are these disadvantages? The only ones I can think of is brand awareness. Don’t get me wrong that’s powerful stuff and when the right coach gets installed, he can use it well. But other than that what are the advantages you are referring to?
Posted on 7/26/23 at 8:48 am to MondayNightPavs
"Not that I think SC will win a National Championship." So what exactly are you arguing for?
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