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2020 Sporting News Preseason All-American Team

Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:45 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:45 am
Sporting News - 2020 CFB Preseason All American Team

First-team offense
QB: Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
RB: Chuba Hubbard, Oklahoma State
RB: Travis Etienne, Clemson
OL: Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
OL: Penei Sewell, Oregon
OL: Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma
OL: Wyatt Davis, Ohio State
OL: Trey Smith, Tennessee
TE: Pat Freiermuth, Penn State
WR: Ja'Marr Chase, LSU
WR: DeVonta Smith, Alabama



First-team defense
DL: Gregory Rousseau, Miami
DL: Jaylen Twyman, Pitt
DL: Kayvon Thibodeaux, Oregon
DL: Marvin Wilson, Florida State
LB: Hamilcar Rashed Jr., Oregon State
LB: Micah Parsons, Penn State
LB: Chazz Surratt, North Carolina
DB: Derek Stingley Jr., LSU
DB: Shaun Wade, Ohio State
DB: Richard LeCounte, Georgia
DB: Andre Cisco, Syracuse

First-team specialists
K: Gabe Brkic, Oklahoma
P: Max Duffy, Kentucky
RET: Jaylen Waddle, Alabama



Second-team offense
QB: Justin Fields, Ohio State
RB: Najee Harris, Alabama
RB: Javian Hawkins, Louisville
OL: Walker Little, Stanford
OL: Sam Cosmi, Texas
OL: Trey Hill, Georgia
OL: Cade Mays, Tennessee
OL: Deonte Brown, Alabama

TE: Brevin Jordan, Miami
WR: Rondale Moore, Purdue
WR: Rashod Bateman, Minnesota


Second-team defense
DL: Daelin Hayes, Notre Dame
DL: Quincy Roche, Miami
DL: Carlos Basham Jr., Wake Forest
DL: Tedarrell Slaton, Florida
LB: Dylan Moses, Alabama

LB: Paddy Fisher, Northwestern
LB: Joe Tryon, Washington
DB: Patrick Surtain II, Alabama
DB: Shaun Jolly, Appalachian State
DB: Caleb Farley, Virginia Tech
DB: Paris Ford, Pitt


Second-team specialists
RET: Damond Philyaw-Johnson, Duke
K: Nick Sciba, Wake Forest
P: Trenton Gill, N.C. State
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 9:46 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:50 am to
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DL: Tedarrell Slaton, Florida



Not to be a homer, but if they're putting a big NT in this spot Shelvin is easily ahead of Slaton here.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:54 am to
Slaton had two more sacks, 1/2 more TFL, and 1 fewer solo tackle than Shelvin last year.

It seems you are being a homer without really realizing it
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:56 am to
Damn, no Bama on first team defense
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:56 am to
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Slaton had two more sacks, 1/2 more TFL, and 1 fewer solo tackle than Shelvin last year.



Going by raw stats is dumb in different schemes, Shelvin was out there to stop the run and he was among the best in the country at it
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Only nine players to play at least 125 snaps against the run at nose tackle had a grade above 80.0, and Shelvin sat at 90.1 — one spot behind leader Aaron Crawford, who graduated from UNC.


So he's the best NT in the country returning this season against the run.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 9:58 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:57 am to
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Damn, no Bama on first team defense



None of them should be
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:57 am to
No Tyler Shelvin? Lol potential first round pick next year.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:58 am to
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Damn, no Bama on first team defense

Did you watch any games last year?
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:59 am to
How the frick is Pitts not the starting TE...fricking ridiculous
Posted by TheCheshireHog
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Member since Oct 2010
40856 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:59 am to
No Treylon Burks. List is bullshite.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 9:59 am to
Preseason All American lists aren’t really made by cherry picking PFF data. If they were then Surtain would be a first teamer.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:01 am to
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Preseason All American lists aren’t really made by cherry picking PFF data. If they were then Surtain would be a first teamer.



Just using the point the best NT in the conference returning is Shelvin, not Slaton, so if you're going to pigeonhole a NT in there, might as well use the one who was better last year.

Also a grading system is way more relevant than your raw stats arguments.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
52349 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:02 am to
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QB: Trevor Lawrence, Clemson 


Meh, I'd rather Justin Fields.
Posted by DawgRff
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:04 am to
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OL: Cade Mays, Tennessee


Did he get a waiver to play this year?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:05 am to
What were their overall grades? You just mentioned snaps against the run. That’s cherry picking isn’t it?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:12 am to
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What were their overall grades? You just mentioned snaps against the run. That’s cherry picking isn’t it?



Judging by Slaton's 3 QB hurries to Shelvin's 1, it doesnt seem like it would make much of a difference.

Also, Shelvin is the best returning run stopper in the country, and considering that's what he's out there to do, seems like it would probably matter a bit more. No doubt Shelvin isn't worth much against the pass, that's why he gets taken off the field in obvious passing situations most of the time. Doesnt seem like Slaton is doing much better against it though, either.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 10:13 am
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78362 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:15 am to
Najee is going to blow up, George. Something tells me Tiny Nick gets back to rugged football after a year of Bamasoft.

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39972 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:18 am to
Weird, maybe I only see the negatives for them but Trey Hill and Lecounte don't seem to play like AA players. And I say that with Lecounte being one of my favorite players on the team the last few years.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:32 am to
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Slaton had two more sacks, 1/2 more TFL, and 1 fewer solo tackle than Shelvin last year.

It seems you are being a homer without really realizing it



Shelvin is a first round pick, possibly top 15 tho.

Shelvin is better than Slaton.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
54043 posts
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:34 am to
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How the frick is Pitts not the starting TE...fricking ridiculous



Pitts is probably the best TE in the country, absurd to be left off this list.
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