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re: 2019 LSU vs 2021 Georgia
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:03 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:03 am to Tuscaloosa
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LSU’s 2019 team would boat race UGA’s 2021 team. It is what it is.
They were fortunate to do that vs a much lesser uga 2019. This take seems to ignore that game.
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was have been a vocal advocate of Kirby since he was hired
Which is what made it so disappointing to see such a lazy take from you. You are often the voice of reason.
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Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:04 am to Funky Tide 8
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Bama 2020 also beat pretty much the same UGA team by multiple scores...
I suppose 2020 UGA is the same as 2021 UGA. I can’t think of any important players on ‘21 that didn’t contribute in ‘20.
Other than the best TE in the country
And our most productive WR
And the WR who caught the go ahead TD in the natty
And our all american DB who clinched the championship with a pick six
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:07 am to djsdawg
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They were fortunate to do that vs a much lesser uga 2019. This take seems to ignore that game.
How were they fortunate against UGA in 2019? Honestly asking, all I remember is LSU easily winning.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:08 am to BamaBy50
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Pickens and a bunch of unproductive wide receivers being in and out all year to 1st and 2nd round pic receivers going down in the 3rd to last game and last game is absolutely moronic.
Caling them unproductive is another example of moronic. You have been fooled by garbage time.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:08 am to Crimson K
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If UGA loses the TE Bowers at any point in the natty, that offense comes to a complete standstill. Having a whole season to get guys ready is pretty different to having to do it on the fly.
Disagree.
You are confusing the SECCG and the NCG.
Bowers was our third leading receiver in the NCG.
We scored TDs with Darnell Washington in the SECCG (so we had a replacement tight end who could do damage).
We screened Ladd McConkey a TD in the SECCG (so we were capable of replacing the same route tree).
Obviously, Bama had issues covering AD Mitchell, Burton, and Pickens.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:08 am to DawginSC
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Interesting that you think your offense would have scored more against the 2021 defense than they did against the 2019 UGA defense.
LSU had a 13 yard drive for a TD off a turnover. Besides that they scored 30 offensive points against UGA. The idea you think they'd have performed better against a better defense and a better offense from UGA in 2021 is kind of non-sensical.
I'm an Alabama fan
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:09 am to NitsFan71
LSU wins, but the takes about UGA 2019 or 2020 defense being similar to the UGA 2021 group are coming from some serious knuckle-draggers.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:10 am to DawginSC
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Interesting that you think your offense would have scored more against the 2021 defense than they did against the 2019 UGA defense. LSU had a 13 yard drive for a TD off a turnover. Besides that they scored 30 offensive points against UGA. The idea you think they'd have performed better against a better defense and a better offense from UGA in 2021 is kind of non-sensical.
Game script matters my man. The game was 34-3 in the 3rd quarter. LSU attempted 2 fourth quarter passes. With UGA’s 2021 offense (which I agree was better than 2019) putting more pressure on the lsu offense, I wouldn’t have been surprised if LSU put up 40.
2019 Clemson held every team until the playoff to 20 or less points. They held an excellent Ohio State offense littered with high draft picks (had Fields, Dobbins, Wilson, Olave) to 23.
LSU put up 628 yards and 42 points.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm an Alabama fan
Nonsensical
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:10 am to RandySavage
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How were they fortunate against UGA in 2019? Honestly asking, all I remember is LSU easily winning.
There is a reason for that...
Our OC was Coley, who was not good. Then, Fromm missed multiple open TD passes, including one at the start of the game, and also our WR corp was decimated. And how did you miss that lucky arse bounce pass that fell into the LSU QBs hands, and he ran 20 yards? That wasn't skill. That was fortune.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm an Alabama fan
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 am to BamaBy50
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Changing a game plan in the middle of a game because it isn’t working with the same players you’ve had all year ? changing a game plan in the middle of a game because of major injuries. I know Georgia fans still want validation for this championship and I’ve never claimed injuries were a valid excuse for Bama losing. Georgia was the better team. But comparing Pickens and a bunch of unproductive wide receivers being in and out all year to 1st and 2nd round pic receivers going down in the 3rd to last game and last game is absolutely moronic.
No... what's moronic is thinking that George Pickens and Kearis Jackson are inconsequential losses. They combined for just under half of UGA's 2020 receiving yards. Metchie and Williams were just over half of Bama's 2021 yards. That doesn't include Dominick Blaylock who was UGA's projected #2 in 2020 but missed all of 2020 and most of 2021 due to injury.
A big reason why Burton wanted to leave UGA is the fact that UGA's had 4 other WR's who've beaten him out for playing time in the past on the roster... Jackson, Blaylock, Mitchell and McConkey. UGA has depth. Bama... doesn't.
And UGA did change players when they changed gameplans. In the NCG, they moved true freshman Broderick Jones into a starting role due to having offensive difficulties. They moved William Poole into the star position on defense and put Brini on the bench (he had no snaps in the NCG). They gave John Fitzpatrick a bunch of snaps in the running game in the second quarter and beyond which had a big impact.
You make it sound like coaches roll out the same plan for every game and hold to it all game. They don't, regardless of injuries. They are always adjusting. Ladd McConkey only had 15 snaps against Bama... because of the gameplan being different than other games. Every week... every DRIVE is planned differently.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:11 am to RandySavage
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How were they fortunate against UGA in 2019?
They were up 34-3 at the end of the 3rd and scored on 7 of 10 possessions excluding the final drive when they kneeled it down.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:13 am to SummerOfGeorge
Also, I love when these threads just boil down to one matchup. For example, I think it’s pretty clear that LSU would score at least 30ish on 2021 UGA, but I don’t think it’s at all clear that that LSU defense holds 2021 UGA offense in check either.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:14 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:14 am to Crowknowsbest
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I don’t think it’s at all clear that that LSU defense holds 2021 UGA offense in check either.
Agreed, though by the end of the year when they were healthy the LSU defense was playing pretty well. Still, Georgia would have scored points.
I'd imagine it would have been a lot like the Clemson/LSU game, probably a score closer the entire 2nd half though.
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:17 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:15 am to DawginSC
i don’t understand how Bama fans can’t see that only having 2 WRs prepared was a major error on Saban’s part
This post was edited on 8/30/22 at 11:17 am
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:18 am to DawginSC
You are still comparing players being out at the beginning of the year (which means it was game planned around all year). To the number 1 and 2 wide receiver going out in the last 3 games of the year. If you can’t see how those don’t correlate into game planning and changing script in a game then idk
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:18 am to Glorious
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Kirby has never shown the ability to stop elite QBs
Like last year's Heisman Trophy winnner?
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:19 am to DallasTiger45
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Game script matters my man. The game was 34-3 in the 3rd quarter. LSU attempted 2 fourth quarter passes. With UGA’s 2021 offense (which I agree was better than 2019) putting more pressure on the lsu offense, I wouldn’t have been surprised if LSU put up 40.
2019 Clemson held every team until the playoff to 20 or less points. They held an excellent Ohio State offense littered with high draft picks (had Fields, Dobbins, Wilson, Olave) to 23.
LSU put up 628 yards and 42 points.
While I can understand the fact that you ran out the clock (which UGA did in all but 3 games last year), you also would have faced a tougher defense for the first 3 quarters. You're kind of expecting the same output for the first 3 quarters and then more in the 4th because UGA would have scored more points.
I think it's much more reasonable to assume UGA would have had a better defensive performance for the first 3 quarters with LSU not running out the clock and thus doing more in the 4th.
When you account that one LSU score came off a turnover that gave them a 13 yard field... if UGA had been even in turnover margin I imagine 2019 LSU vs 2021 UGA would have been a pretty tight game.
LSU's offense only scored 30 points against 2019 UGA. I think 30 points (including trying in the 4th quarter) would have been a reasonable result against 2021 as well. Could UGA have scored 30 points? Bama, Ole Miss, Vandy and Texas managed it in 2019. UGA on the other hand scored over 30 against every team they played other than Clemson in week 1 (with a different starting QB).
I give the edge to LSU because Burrow really was incredible. But not by much.
Posted on 8/30/22 at 11:19 am to diddlydawg7
I don't think it was an error as if we chose it, it was just the way it worked out with our depth situation, and it worked out that way at a time of year where it's difficult to take guys who have been getting 2nd team reps all year and all of a sudden gear them up in 2 weeks for games against elite teams and defenses.
We didn't even really find the Metchie/Williams/Bryce groove until late in the season, led alone also having all the other guys in sync.
We didn't even really find the Metchie/Williams/Bryce groove until late in the season, led alone also having all the other guys in sync.
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