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re: 2012 US News and World Report Top Public Universities-SEC edition
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:34 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 9/13/11 at 12:34 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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CapstoneGrad06
First, you can't bemoan UAB or UAH. They are not simply satellite campuses (UAB certainly isn't) - they are separate institutions.
Second, you might get tired of it, but the fact is that an engineering degree from Auburn is better than one from Alabama. No one said you degree wasn't solid - just that one from Auburn would be better. At least in the area I know personally about, if you are an Electrical Engineer trying to work in Huntsville (Redstone, NASA, Adtran, etc) or at a large place like AT&T, Verizon etc., you are better served with an AU degree than one from UA.
P.S. I have attended the University of Alabama as well as Auburn.
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Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:28 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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actually graduated/attended
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:32 pm to stat19
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Its sad - typical stereotype Auburn "little brother" message board banter. Like a Napolean complex everything Auburn is better than anything anyone else.
If anys student or parent of a student would do their homework they would find the schools closer than Auburn "supports" will admit - with Alabama leading the many in far more academic areas than Auburn. Auburn supports want to hang their hat on the Engineering monacle and likes to think they are comparable to Georgia Tech - which couldn't be further from the truth.
I wonder if SACS accreditation probation should even be brought into this subject. It's pathetic when we break into this kind of moronic banter.
1. It was a damned joke.
2. I followed up the joke with a post saying pretty much what you said above (sorry you didn't bother to read it).
3. Auburn's engineering program IS better. Learn it. Love it. Live it.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:33 pm to cornhat
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SEC Schools Rank:
Alabama-98
Auburn-56
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:34 pm to beatbammer
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1. It was a damned joke.
2. I followed up the joke with a post saying pretty much what you said above (sorry you didn't bother to read it).
3. Auburn's engineering program IS better. Learn it. Love it. Live it.
Personally, in regards to engineering, I can't really tell the difference. I got my undergrad at Arky and I'm doing my masters at gatech in ME and the classes feel the exact same to me.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:47 pm to beatbammer
Without getting political, I think it's pretty remarkable that the state of Alabama, poor as it is, has 2 top 40 public universities. And the state's people have accomplished this without the aid of lotteries or gambling interests, like every state that surrounds us.
Now back to the flaming.
Now back to the flaming.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:52 pm to attheua
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Without getting political, I think it's pretty remarkable that the state of Alabama, poor as it is, has 2 top 40 public universities. And the state's people have accomplished this without the aid of lotteries or gambling interests, like every state that surrounds us.
Now back to the flaming.
Quit looking at the bright side, Gump.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 1:54 pm to attheua
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Without getting political, I think it's pretty remarkable that the state of Alabama, poor as it is, has 2 top 40 public universities. And the state's people have accomplished this without the aid of lotteries or gambling interests, like every state that surrounds us.
Now back to the flaming.
Lotteries/casinos or monopolizing off of 18 year olds playing football. Pick your poison.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 2:14 pm to WaveHog
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yeah, wow this is the first time i think i've seen academic rankings with arkansas below one of the two missippi schools, and in this one it's far below.
FWIW, there isn't that much difference between what Arkansas offers and what Ole Miss offers regarding liberal arts and such. I'm not really sure about State, but that's because I don't know too much about the engineering and whatnot.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 2:16 pm to Irons Puppet
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They get the National Merit Scholars because they offer the moon compared to what other schools offer. UA uses that as a marketing tool.
Ole Miss, Florida, Oklahoma, and a few others do it too. Once you get that national merit, your mailbox is stuffed with their shite nonstop.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 2:22 pm to DCRebel
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Ole Miss, Florida, Oklahoma, and a few others do it too. Once you get that national merit, your mailbox is stuffed with their shite nonstop.
That is one of AUs biggest problems, they do not offer the same scholarship opportunities as some other schools. My understanding is that UA gives board and tuition plus laptops and other stipends for NMS.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 2:25 pm to rolltide06
Hellz yeah.... 
Posted on 9/13/11 at 2:26 pm to Irons Puppet
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My understanding is that UA gives board and tuition plus laptops and other stipends for NMS.
Yep. That's what they offered me at least. Ole Miss offered me tuition, room and board, plus stipends to cover "living expenses." Oklahoma offered free tuition. Florida offered some money but I can't remember how much.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 2:39 pm to rolltide06
Surprised that Alabama is apparently harder to get in than Auburn. I remember when I was looking at colleges that it was easier to get into Alabama. Of course, this was back in 2008..
Posted on 9/13/11 at 3:01 pm to AuburnisGreatEtc
Lower acceptance rate does not necessarily mean "harder to get into," at least not in the colloquial sense that it is used.
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Posted on 9/13/11 at 5:41 pm to APIEE
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First, you can't bemoan UAB or UAH. They are not simply satellite campuses (UAB certainly isn't) - they are separate institutions.
They are different campuses within the UA System. With regards to enigineering, the aerospace program is more geared towards Huntsville for obvious reasons. The Biomedical engineering program is more geared toward Birmingham for, again, obvious reasons. Otherwise these programs would be on UA's main campus.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 6:43 pm to APIEE
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Where is this inaccurate??
The average person entering Auburn has a higher GPA/ACT than the average person entering Alabama.
Auburn admits a higher percentage of its applicants than Alabama does.
So long as the respective universities are admitting the top applicants in their class, and both universities have around the same percentage of admitted applicants attend (this might not be true - I don't know), we know that the average applicant to Auburn is smarter than (or at least has better numbers than) the average applicant to Alabama.
Averages don't matter, kid. Medians do.
I think it's true, to some degree, that Alabama has become a bit easier for lower-scoring applicants to be admitted to in recent years. This is mostly a new phenomenon, however, and the trend has clearly coincided with Robert Witt's expansion plans for the university.
But, more to the point: Rankings are really all that matter. Auburn can circle jerk all they want about their average ACT score (again, medians are more important than averages), but the USNWR rankings are what boost alumni donations, applications, etc. I couldn't tell you what UVA, UMich, and Berkeley have as their SAT/ACT medians, but I could tell you that they're all consistently the top-ranked public schools in the country. And that's all that matters.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 6:52 pm to APIEE
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AU has a higher acceptance rate but that is driven by the fact that we have a smaller # of folks applying than Alabama, and there are a lot of folks with low scores trying to get into UA, who don't even apply to AU.
Lmao. When in doubt, deflect. Sorry your school was once again outclassed by UA in the one academic measure that matters: USNWR. Get over it.
Posted on 9/13/11 at 6:56 pm to RMFTBama
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the one academic measure that matters
lulz
Posted on 9/13/11 at 7:01 pm to beatbammer
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lulz
I don't see what's funny. USNWR pretty much runs this shite. You'd especially know that if you went to grad school. The USNWR law school rankings, for instance, have a tremendous impact on alumni donations, quality of applicants, and even the job security of admissions deans. People literally lose their jobs over these rankings.
This post was edited on 9/13/11 at 7:04 pm
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