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re: 1928-2007 no team won more games than the Vols
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:08 am to BigOrangeBri
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:08 am to BigOrangeBri
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Guys no one cares about the ancient past unless they may have said something racist or been the descendant of a confederate soldier
Has nothing to do with race or politics, or anything close
The quality of the game was so poor in comparison to the Modern Era of CFB I don't like to count accolades from back then when OGs were 210lbs and LBs weighed 195 lbs and the fastest guy on the field was lucky to run a 4.6
The game is so different from the Modern Era in term of size-speed-strength of the players that there's no comparison
Tennessee's best Team before 1950 wouldn't even make the Class-AAAAAAA HS FB playoffs in a State like GA or TX in 2020, and not because of CV19 either
In the big Classifications in the Metro ATL Area, you can actually find HS JV Teams with more size & speed than a pre-1950 Tennessee Team
That's just my opinion, those pre 1950 & pre 1960 CFB Records don't need to be deemed as equal to the Modern Era of CFB
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:26 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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Has nothing to do with race or politics, or anything close
The quality of the game was so poor in comparison to the Modern Era of CFB I don't like to count accolades from back then when OGs were 210lbs and LBs weighed 195 lbs and the fastest guy on the field was lucky to run a 4.6
The game is so different from the Modern Era in term of size-speed-strength of the players that there's no comparison
Tennessee's best Team before 1950 wouldn't even make the Class-AAAAAAA HS FB playoffs in a State like GA or TX in 2020, and not because of CV19 either
In the big Classifications in the Metro ATL Area, you can actually find HS JV Teams with more size & speed than a pre-1950 Tennessee Team
That's just my opinion, those pre 1950 & pre 1960 CFB Records don't need to be deemed as equal to the Modern Era of CFB
Gotcha. So the accomplishments of the Babe, Lou, Ted, Ty should also be dismissed. Gotcha.
They weren't as strong as McGwire, Bonds, Canseco, and Sosa. So, frick 'em.
The game was different, doesn't mean it didn't exist
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 3:31 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:39 am to JesusQuintana
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You’ve almost got to try to be bad if you’re a program like Tennessee with the way the deck is stacked in CFB. It’s really quite an amazing feat how shitty they’ve become
It's amazing how shitty Mizzou has always been. We walked the dog on you last year and will continue to do so for years to come. Hope you all enjoyed the past few years, cause the days of us losing to your high school program are over.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:40 am to BigOrangeBri
What has Notre Dame and Michigan done since black players were allowed to play as well? I guess to achievements of their programs do not count either.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:16 am to psk_Vol
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What has Notre Dame and Michigan done since black players were allowed to play as well?
Notre Dame was an integrated team by the mid-60s. Since that time they have won four AP national championships. Michigan has made it a habit of choking in the Rose Bowl or the Ohio State game since that time, hence their lack of national titles.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:38 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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6 national championships
LOLOLOLOL. Ok.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:44 am to PeeJayScammedGT
1950 is a fine starting point. Or whenever the first actual poll was inviented.
What gets me is this games from 1800’s counting back when the game was more like soccer, different teams played under different rules until Walter Camp drew up official rules of the game. Also any win against high school teams and club teams like fire departments needs to be removed. Univ of Michigan has about 100 wins that were really just scrimmages.
What gets me is this games from 1800’s counting back when the game was more like soccer, different teams played under different rules until Walter Camp drew up official rules of the game. Also any win against high school teams and club teams like fire departments needs to be removed. Univ of Michigan has about 100 wins that were really just scrimmages.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 7:59 am to AtlantaLSUfan
6 national titles does not sound right. Let’s count actual,factual titles
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:23 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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1928-2007 no team won more games than the Vols
only because in its infinite wisdom the ncaa decided Alabama should forfeit or vacate 31 victories for Antonio Langham signing a napkin for an agent and athletes selling or giving away textbooks.
Even excluding those victories, from 1896 through 2019 Alabama has won more games than any other team.
LINK
I-A Wins 1896-2019 (124 years)
(Teams not qualifying for the table are listed at the bottom.)
Rank Team name Winning
Percentage Games
Won Games
Lost Games
Tied Games
Played
1 Alabama 0.73195 911 320 43 1274
2 Oklahoma 0.72611 908 326 53 1287
3 Michigan 0.73153 904 321 34 1259
4 Ohio State 0.73787 902 304 51 1257
5 Texas 0.70145 901 374 33 1308
6 Notre Dame 0.72850 895 321 40 1256
7 Nebraska 0.69071 881 384 38 1303
8 Penn State 0.68959 869 381 37 1287
9 Tennessee 0.67852 842 385 53 1280
10 Southern Cal 0.69774 838 348 53 1239
Finally,according to ncaa.com UT has won 2 nationals titles.
1951 and 1998
But traditionally, Tennessee is in fact the 2nd best team in the SEC and will eventually be championship contenders again. I think Pruitt will probably get them there just in time to return to Alabama when Saban retires.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 8:27 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:38 am to NorthshoreTiger76
Bama won more games in this time period OP.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 8:39 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 8:54 am to NorthshoreTiger76
You heard it here first. VOLS were never good and will never ever be good again. Straight facts
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:17 am to BigOrangeBri
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Gotcha. So the accomplishments of the Babe, Lou, Ted, Ty should also be dismissed. Gotcha.
They weren't as strong as McGwire, Bonds, Canseco, and Sosa. So, frick 'em.
The game was different, doesn't mean it didn't exist
Not the same, back then CFB wasn't as popular as Baseball, since Baseball attracted most of the USA's best Athletes, the players back then were much better Athletes and much closer to a mofern day MLB Player, than a CFB player from the same Era could compare to a CFB Player in 2020
Also, Baseball the way the game is, the maximum of human potential by earlier players has come closer to hitting that Maximum potential in earlier Eras unlike CFB
For example, Bob Feller had a fastball that hit the high 90s or 100mph back in the late 30s or early 40s, very similar to Aroldis Chapman in the current Major Leagues, and Duke Snyder was 6-3 190lbs and was a 200 meter track guy that was a JUCO Teammate of Jackie Robinson and his athleticism was comparable to MLB players from this Era
In summary, MLB Players from back in that Era got the best Athletes in the entire Country due to the popularity back then, so using Baseball for a CFB comparison won't work
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:40 am to Rip Torn
Shocked Missouri rant about another football team ! They remind me of Georgia Tech ! So sad !!!
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:43 am to RollTide1987
BAMA will never admit it but as Great as the bear was, he never beat ND!!!!! Look it up Gumps !
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:10 am to BLG
NCAA DOT COM — Updated info as of June 2020
Congrats Gumps — Tied for 4th place with TX in wins (916)
Gumps 5th in Winning % (.727) behind Michigan & OSU & Notre Dame & Boise St
Draw your own Conclusions folks!
Gumps draw your own DELUSIONS!
Good Luck catching OSU with Sabah ready for the nursing home and Cutty Sark leading that Dump Jones offense and Petey G ready to take it up the @$$ again in 2020.
Factual History Lesson Concluded!
Congrats Gumps — Tied for 4th place with TX in wins (916)
Gumps 5th in Winning % (.727) behind Michigan & OSU & Notre Dame & Boise St
Draw your own Conclusions folks!
Gumps draw your own DELUSIONS!
Good Luck catching OSU with Sabah ready for the nursing home and Cutty Sark leading that Dump Jones offense and Petey G ready to take it up the @$$ again in 2020.
Factual History Lesson Concluded!
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 10:15 am
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:31 am to 1badboy
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BAMA will never admit it but as Great as the bear was, he never beat ND!!!!! Look it up Gumps !
ND is ahead of Gumps in all-time winning %
ND 5-2 ahead of Gumps in their series.
ND is 2nd behind them in NCs (11)
ND = 1st in All Americans (6th)
ND = 1st in Heisman Winners (11th)
ND way ahead in NFL Draft picks
ND is ahead in 1st round NFL Draft picks
fricking ND accepting that bowl cost LSU a National Title shot
LSU 5-7 vs Notre Dame
This could easily have been 7-5 LSU. ND does not want to play an Ed Orgeron team
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:33 am to tattoo
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Whenever they did well regionally, they crumbled nationally. E.g., in their "unscored on season", they went to the Rose Bowl and were shutout 14-0. The General, who was a great coach, was 3-6 in major bowl games in his career at UT.
Nutrition in the South lagged behind the rest of the country until pretty recently, so teams from here were probably a bit smaller on average. It was a huge upset when Bama won that Rose Bowl, " The Game that Changed the South"
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:38 am to PokeyTiger
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fricking ND accepting that bowl cost LSU a National Title shot
The loss in Jackson to Ole Miss prevented LSU from a National Title shot. Even a win over Texas in the Cotton wouldn't have overcome that.
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This could easily have been 7-5 LSU. ND does not want to play an Ed Orgeron team
Well, Notre Dame is 1-0 vs Big Ed.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 10:52 am to PeeJayScammedGT
The meta controversy is: there is no timeframe which can be selected which won't piss-off somebody.
If the cutoff ain't the forward pas, it's platoons, otherwise integration, else, some other bench mark.
The key to wisely picking the period start-date is: come to a firm decision ahead of time on which fan-bases you're trying to piss-off.
If the cutoff ain't the forward pas, it's platoons, otherwise integration, else, some other bench mark.
The key to wisely picking the period start-date is: come to a firm decision ahead of time on which fan-bases you're trying to piss-off.
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